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Tell me that as they stick you in the gas chamber.
Everyone has to die, Elvis.

I don't see gasing people as an ideal thing to do, either. But those who fought a decent war; it made them stronger.


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Everyone has to die, Elvis.

I don't see gasing people as an ideal thing to do, either. But those who fought a decent war; it made them stronger.
Dying fighting is always better.


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Dying fighting is always better.
I don't think it makes a difference.

We all live and die. To "die fighting" may sound romantic, but I don't thik it has much signifcance outside fairy tales...


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But those who fought a decent war; it made them stronger.
Not really... it generally makes them crazy and lands them in therapy or on the street.
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Not really... it generally makes them crazy and lands them in therapy or on the street.
You're talking about the modern day fagot generations.

Once again, I wanted to talk about the past.


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You're talking about the modern day fagot generations.

Once again, I wanted to talk about the past.
Oh?... how was it different in the past?
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Oh?... how was it different in the past?
Before, men would fight for the pure sake of fighting. Entire countries jumped on horses oneday and thought to go to the neighbours country just to steal some gold even when they didn't really have to do it as they already had enough food.

I fail to see these men would have come home crying saying "Mommy, Mr. Genghis made me do bad things, I need a counsellor..." LOL... as if.

People are fucking pussy nowadays. In WW1, men were pretty much alright after it. After that war, the condition of men returning home from wars has slowly deteriorated each time. Nowadays, men start crying before they've even been to a war. This pattern also matches my view of what I think is a serious social decline in pretty much all decent things.


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Before, men would fight for the pure sake of fighting. Entire countries jumped on horses oneday and thought to go to the neighbours country just to steal some gold even when they didn't really have to do it as they already had enough food.

I fail to see these men would have come home crying saying "Mommy, Mr. Genghis made me do bad things, I need a counsellor..." LOL... as if.

People are fucking pussy nowadays. In WW1, men were pretty much alright after it. After that war, the condition of men returning home from wars has slowly deteriorated each time. Nowadays, men start crying before they've even been to a war. This pattern also matches my view of what I think is a serious social decline in pretty much all decent things.
Ummm... what? WW1 produced some of the worst basket cases. Ever read WW1 poetry?

Furthermore we know nothing of the psychological condition of people that went to war in ancient or medieval times. Mostly because the field of psychology wasn't around back then.
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Ummm... what? WW1 produced some of the worst basket cases. Ever read WW1 poetry?
I don't believe you. You'll need to pull out some back up links for this one.

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Furthermore we know nothing of the psychological condition of people that went to war in ancient or medieval times. Mostly because the field of psychology wasn't around back then.
Yes, you're right. All we know is after they'd done it once (out of free will), they chose to do it again (out of free will)... and again... and again... and again...

Anyway, I've never been to war, but I've been in equally as fucked situations that occur in war. It never bothered me. I would not mind war.

Of course, different characters of people are suited to war. The character a child grows to be is shaped by the world he/she/it grows up in. The world was much different back then, making for much stronger people.

It's only logical war was much less of a psychological blast in a world where there's so much more mental conditioning and mental preperation before you enter it.


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I don't believe you. You'll need to pull out some back up links for this one.

Yes, you're right. All we know is after they'd done it once (out of free will), they chose to do it again (out of free will)... and again... and again... and again...

Anyway, I've never been to war, but I've been in equally as fucked situations that occur in war. It never bothered me. I would not mind war.

Of course, different characters of people are suited to war. The character a child grows to be is shaped by the world he/she/it grows up in. The world was much different back then, making for much stronger people.

It's only logical war was much less of a psychological blast in a world where there's so much more mental conditioning and mental preperation before you enter it.
First of all

WAR POETRY: WHERE DEATH BECOMES ABSURD AND LIFE ABSURDER

World War I soldiers - Hutchinson encyclopedia article about World War I soldiers

Second of all... I realise that you romanticise about the simpler days of the ancient and medieval worlds and you see yourself as some sort of modern day Spartan (pathetic if you ask me). But your lack of experience in modern warfare and the lack of information available concerning the mental conditioning of soldiers of the past really puts you in no position to be able to call the war vets of today "fagots".
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