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09-06-2009, 06:24 AM

I get foggy on the details but it's got something to do with insulting the prophet or something like that. It's like if you say anything bad about that particular guy, it's insulting to all muslim's everywhere, throughout time and space.
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09-06-2009, 09:41 AM

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WTF?

I didn't say anything about Islam, I just don't like the guy. It doesn't bother me what personal beliefs he had. I just think he's of poor character.
Which guy do you mean? I thought you were talking about prophet Muhammed?


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09-06-2009, 09:49 AM

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I get foggy on the details but it's got something to do with insulting the prophet or something like that. It's like if you say anything bad about that particular guy, it's insulting to all muslim's everywhere, throughout time and space.
You are right it DOES work both ways. That's why I never insult people (or an entire nation) in general (and never on purpose), just the one's that show they are ignorant assholes .

It's not strange that a muslim will feel offended when something insulting has been said about prophet Muhammed. I'm not talking about justified criticism. I'm talking about people saying those things about prophet Muhammed in a way that is meant to insult. You can't deny the fact that it can be said in a more subtle way.

Let's say I want to criticise the way Teddy Roosevelt had fulfilled his presidential term. I could do this in two ways:
1. Say that I think Teddy Roosevelt was an asshole, a rapist and a liar. This would surely insult some.
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2. Tell you about the historical facts that I have dug up and say that I do not agree with you and that I don't think Teddy Roosevelt has been of significant importance for the history of the U.S.A., based on those facts.

These are examples. I do not have an opinion about Teddy Roosevelt.


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09-06-2009, 09:59 AM

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You are right it DOES work both ways. That's why I never insult people (or an entire nation) in general (and never on purpose), just the one's that show they are ignorant assholes .

It's not strange that a muslim will feel offended when something insulting has been said about prophet Muhammed. I'm not talking about justified criticism. I'm talking about people saying those things about prophet Muhammed in a way that is meant to insult. You can't deny the fact that it can be said in a more subtle way.
I said he was a dick. So what?

If I say Obama is a dick, do Americans jump up and down and say they're offended because I insulted their leader? No. They just rub it in your face that you lost the election (though, how they were supposed to win with Palin on their side, I can't quite figure).

So why should I be offending Muslims in saying their leader is a dick? I think you're being overly sensative.


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09-06-2009, 11:09 AM

I am not being sensitive, as your rude behaviour doesn't do anything to the strength of my belief.
I am just pointing out that I feel offended. I find that you are (in my opinion) being disrespectful about prophet Muhammed.
Ofcourse you can say whatever you want. So I can I.
It takes a decent human being to take someone's feelings into account.
It is a little thing called respect.

I am sure many will agree.


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09-06-2009, 11:48 AM

Muhammad is dead; he has no feelings.

As for you feeling offended, I never said anything bad about you, so it isn't my probolem.

It's not my fault if I think someone's a dick. I can't be expected to like everyone who's ever lived.


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09-06-2009, 11:51 AM

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Muhammad is dead; he has no feelings.

As for you feeling offended, I never said anything bad about you, so it isn't my probolem.

It's not my fault if I think someone's a dick. I can't be expected to like everyone who's ever lived.
Please learn to read. I did not say anything about Muhammed's feelings getting hurt. You don't have to say anything bad about me to offend me.
Do as you please. I have done my part.


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I did not say anything about Muhammed's feelings getting hurt.
Yes you did. You said it takes a decent human being to take into account other people's feelings. Since I'm talking about Muhammad, I took it as you though I wasn't taking his feelings into account.

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You don't have to say anything bad about me to offend me.
So it seems... I don't even have to mention your name or acknowledge your existence and you feel offended...


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09-06-2009, 02:25 PM

Tenchu, I think you're a dick!

The only reasons you ever say anything negative about Mohammed is because you're so anti-islam. Before you bring up your ridiculous crap about him being evil and a pedo etc... you should look at one of your great hero's, Mr G Khan... I'm sure if he was a promoter of Islam, you'd hate him, even though right now you're so in love with him for pretty pathetic reasons... He may have conquered more of the world than anyone else, but the fashion he done it in is dumb!!! He destroyed so much culture and killed so many people just for the sake of it... I think you'll find that anyone could have conquered as much as him, if not more if there were as ruthless! Attack by surprise and tell everyone this is now your land... oooo, so glorious and heroic

p.s. people are offended about Mohammed because he is an important figure in people's beliefs! It is nothing like talking crap about Obama, lol, even though, a lot of people did treat him like the mesiah!!!
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p.s. people are offended about Mohammed because he is an important figure in people's beliefs! It is nothing like talking crap about Obama, lol, even though, a lot of people did treat him like the mesiah!!!
Americans believe in "freedom" (as if they weren't born with it LOL)... I don't see the difference... Obama is an important figure in people's beliefs...

Anyway, I'm over Genghis Khan now. That was so yesterday. My new Hero are Adolf Hitler and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, because they both want to destroy Jews.

Honestly, the anti-Islam thing, I dunno what you're talking about. I really just think Muhammad was a dick. He just had no style.


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