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07-30-2009, 11:07 AM
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07-30-2009, 11:21 AM
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However, Alan, General Discussion is about everything. Not only Japan. Introduce yourself and talk about anything you want here, Japanese-related or not. |
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07-30-2009, 11:45 AM
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07-30-2009, 02:06 PM
I think the point here is most of us were drawn to this forum because of an interest in Japan (for me, it's Samurai, martial arts, computer games, Saaya Irie), so we all have something in common. But, us people with something in common, will naturally talk about anything.
The eternal Saint is calling, through the ages she has told. The ages have not listened; the will of faith has grown old…
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07-30-2009, 02:15 PM
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In 1187 Saladin invaded the kingdom, defeating the Crusaders at the Battle of Hattin. The battle left Saladin with many prisoners. Most prominent among these prisoners were Raynald and King Guy, both of whom Saladin ordered brought to his tent. The chronicler Imad ad-Din al-Isfahani, who was present at the scene, relates: “ Saladin invited the king [Guy] to sit beside him, and when Arnat [Raynald] entered in his turn, he seated him next to his king and reminded him of his misdeeds. "How many times have you sworn an oath and violated it? How many times have you signed agreements you have never respected?" Raynald answered through a translator: "Kings have always acted thus. I did nothing more." During this time King Guy was gasping with thirst, his head dangling as though drunk, his face betraying great fright. Saladin spoke reassuring words to him, had cold water brought, and offered it to him. The king drank, then handed what remained to Raynald, who slaked his thirst in turn. The sultan then said to Guy: "You did not ask permission before giving him water. I am therefore not obliged to grant him mercy." After pronouncing these words, the sultan smiled, mounted his horse, and rode off, leaving the captives in terror. He supervised the return of the troops, and then came back to his tent. He ordered Raynald brought there, then advanced before him, sword in hand, and struck him between the neck and the shoulder-blade. When Raynald fell, he cut off his head and dragged the body by its feet to the king, who began to tremble. Seeing him thus upset, Saladin said to him in a reassuring tone: "This man was killed only because of his maleficence and perfidy". ” King Guy was spared and was taken to Damascus for a time, then allowed to go free. To a few Christians of his time, Raynald was considered a martyr killed at the hands of the Muslims. However, documentary evidence tends to refute this idealized picture, giving the impression of Reynald as a freebooter and pirate who had little concern for the welfare of the Kingdom of Jerusalem. It could be argued that the successes of the Kingdom were undone in large measure by Raynald's recklessness, which had the effect of provoking needlessly the Muslim states surrounding Outremer. Saladin's actions ultimately proved to be beneficial to his own interests. By killing Raynald while sparing Guy, the faction struggle in Jerusalem continued. This struggle would later greatly diminish the potency of the Third Crusade. Raynald of Châtillon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia The eternal Saint is calling, through the ages she has told. The ages have not listened; the will of faith has grown old…
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07-30-2009, 02:42 PM
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Not only that, he also sent ships that pillaged Islamic villages along the shoreline. Raynald had it coming. I can understand war. But when there is a truce, and you break it, you'll have to live with the repercussions. Also, for another hero, Hitler. What he did was evil in my eyes, (I'm saying mine, because evil and good are simply opinions) however, he was a genius. And if I could go back in time to spend time with ONE person in anytime in history, it'd either be Hitler, or Confucius. Then again. I'd like to spend time with all heroes in history. |
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07-30-2009, 03:07 PM
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07-30-2009, 03:13 PM
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But yes, you are absolutely correct. You haven't dug your hole too deep until it's killed you
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07-30-2009, 04:30 PM
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I'd like to be taught lessons by Musashi, drink Thai beer with Genghis Khan, discuss virtue with Richard the Lionhearted (he already was one of my idols), and yes, who could resist, have supper with Hitler... The eternal Saint is calling, through the ages she has told. The ages have not listened; the will of faith has grown old…
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07-30-2009, 04:37 PM
My wife's family has many men who Japan considers heros, but one stands out above the rest, Maeda, Toshiie.
Maeda (means in front of the rice field), Toshiie (前田利家?, January 15, 1539 - April 27, 1599) was one of the leading generals of Oda Nobunaga. The highest rank from the court that he received is the Great Counselor Dainagon (大納言). Toshiie served Oda Nobunaga from childhood and his loyalty was rewarded by being allowed to be the head of the Maeda clan. He was a friend to Toyotomi Hideyoshi in their childhood. He was a member of the akahoro-shū (赤母衣衆), the unit under Oda Nobunaga's personal command. He also was a lifelong rival of Tokugawa Ieyasu. He was eventually granted a han (land grant) in Noto and Kaga Provinces. It was a highly productive province which would eventually develop into the wealthiest in Edo period Japan, with a net worth of 1 million koku (百万石). He was in many battles. One of his most famous victory's was at the Battle of Suemori Castle. Before dying, Hideyoshi named Toshiie to the council of Five Elders to support Toyotomi Hideyori until he was old enough to take control on his own, but he died a year later of natural causes. He is buried on Mt. Koya near Osaka. Toshiie and his wife, Matsu had a number of children. Their sons, Toshinaga, Toshimasa, Toshitsune, Toshitaka, and Toshitoyo all became daimyo. Maeda Toshiie - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia |
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