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08-03-2009, 04:05 AM

I saw where BSI or Ascap went after a bar in Arizona because a band played a song there that they "owned". This is stupid. If you aren't recording it they should leave it alone. Funeral homes need to get licensed to play funeral CD's. Who would want a copy of that?


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08-03-2009, 04:12 AM

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Actually, in this case it would be more like your 'friend' lending you 60-70 CD's, and you burning copies and handing them out on the street.
Perhaps my example was a bad analogy, but I stick to my point nonetheless. I still do not see the justice.
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08-03-2009, 04:17 AM

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Funeral homes need to get licensed to play funeral CD's. Who would want a copy of that?
This reminds me how the South Korean national anthem was declared under a full copyright and many South Koreans were trying to brew a serious riot in the streets of Seoul or even make a full-fledge internet protest against the judiciary officials and the RIAA-like organizations in South Korea. Later the South Korean government and the Spanish family* that holds the copyright relinquished the claim of the copyright and apologize to the public.

Yeah, brutal.

*Yes, that composer was a Euro-bound Korean.


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08-03-2009, 04:20 AM

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Perhaps my example was a bad analogy, but I stick to my point nonetheless. I still do not see the justice.
Do you see the crime?
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08-03-2009, 04:23 AM

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I don't do downloading because I'm pop-culturally deprived, but I understand this differently via open source licenses.
Wow, I'm like you when it comes to US related music an artists. I haven't fully kept up with music released here since the 90s when I was still in my teens. No file sharing back then. No internet either. =P Just taped stuff off the radio or just bought the tape/cd.
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Wow, I'm like you when it comes to US related music an artists.
For me, I have many complicated family issues that I removed myself from mainstream entertainment.


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08-03-2009, 04:36 AM

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Do you see the crime?
For something to be a crime, it must be something punishable by a law. Thus, I would find it rather difficult to not see it as a crime. However, I do not see it as great of crime as some would say. If I were to obtain music by torrent or music from a friend, in both cases I would be breaking the law as it stands, acquiring music through sharing. But do I necessarily agree with the law when it says that is wrong? Not completely, and I certainly do not agree with the law being able to punish average everyday people who could just as simply be one of us on these forums by forcing them to pay obscene amounts of money.
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08-03-2009, 04:37 AM

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Because I know what a torrent is? Would I be a good "critic" if I didn't know what a torrent was?

Next please.
No, you understand the whole seeding and leeching business.

It isn't easy to become well versed in such things.

This is the same deal with saying I've got problems, and then you're an expert on schoolgirl fashion.

I can see you, MMM.


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08-03-2009, 04:49 AM

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For something to be a crime, it must be something punishable by a law. Thus, I would find it rather difficult to not see it as a crime. However, I do not see it as great of crime as some would say. If I were to obtain music by torrent or music from a friend, in both cases I would be breaking the law as it stands, acquiring music through sharing. But do I necessarily agree with the law when it says that is wrong? Not completely, and I certainly do not agree with the law being able to punish average everyday people who could just as simply be one of us on these forums by forcing them to pay obscene amounts of money.
As I said earlier "sharing" is a term pirates use to make illegal copying and distribution sound the same as "sharing" music with a friend.

If you were a musician, would you have a problem with a fan sharing your music with a friend? Of course not. You would want your music to be introduced by fans.

However, this is not the kind of "sharing" we are talking about. We are talking about the copying and distribution (dare I say, mass distribution) of someone's work, a copyrighted material. Artists do not support illegal DLing, and have taken a variety of approaches to deal with it. Surely things cannot go on as they are, and things will change, but that doesn't make DLing any more legal or right than it was 5 years ago.
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08-03-2009, 04:49 AM

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No, you understand the whole seeding and leeching business.

It isn't easy to become well versed in such things.

This is the same deal with saying I've got problems, and then you're an expert on schoolgirl fashion.

I can see you, MMM.
Seeding and leeching isn't hard to understand...its pretty basic actually.
Maybe to do his research MMM Wiki'd the word Torrent? Which surely has information on seeding and leeching.


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