The N-Word

[Salvanas]

Originally Posted by Zagato289

Of course its better to do something that you know for sure its going to make a big impact in he world, but its nice trying other things and makes me feel proud of at least trying. The main reason people dont like participating in these subjects in the real world is because of FEAR. Fear of what? Fear of what others will think of them and the consequences after they stte their opinion. You can change a racist person, with enough effort. If no one ever tried to stop racism in history, there will still be the same kind of racism from the past, today, so al those people trying, are actually doing someting, and ill be happy to be part of them .

Fear? That's a pretty bold statement. I really don't think that's it. Most people feel like I do.

And the only way you can change a racist person, is to dispel his hate for that race. You can try.

Hell, please. I'd like to see you try to come to England, and try to convince one of the men in the pub here. Please, go ahead.

You won't get anywhere. Racist people are racist because they hate that race for some sort of reason. And hate isn't something easy to convince people out of.

[Nathan]

Originally Posted by mercedesjin

No, when it's used to describe groups of people who are not actually Hispanic, then it isn't PC.

Hispanic....

Would you stop posting that copy+pasted text and link. If you want to work that some of their ridiculous arguments into your 'debate', do so. But stop copying the exact same chunk of text and link into a post. All you're succeeding in doing is diminishing your own stance by appearing to only have one 'source'. And the writers of said article need to remove the stick.

[Hyakushi]

Of course there are always double standards with people depending on their veiws.
For me I don't really have a problem with the word nigger unless used as an insult to me or someone I don't know. I have alot of black friends and we always joke around with that word and others like they would call me "chinky son of a whore" and I would say "nigga/nigger/negwo please" etc.

We have always done that since I knew them in elementry school but if some random person just comes up to them or me and calls us "filthy niggers" for no reason at then yeah we would get offended.

Guess what I'm trying to say is it depends on the way its used.

[Zagato289]

Originally Posted by Salvanas

Fear? That's a pretty bold statement. I really don't think that's it. Most people feel like I do.

And the only way you can change a racist person, is to dispel his hate for that race. You can try.

Hell, please. I'd like to see you try to come to England, and try to convince one of the men in the pub here. Please, go ahead.

You won't get anywhere. Racist people are racist because they hate that race for some sort of reason. And hate isn't something easy to convince people out of.

yeah, hate isnt easy to convince. sometimes i think that if words dont work, lets used force, even though its wrong. im interested about those people in England you said earlier, tell me more about. Did you get your ass kick or saw someone else got theirs trying to do something againts them.

[Tenchu]

Originally Posted by mercedesjin

Caucasian is a Dirty Word.

Mercedes, no one has to be politically correct. That was a courtesy. Don't try and tell me calling myself caucasian is racist, or I'll start saying nigger every sentence just to piss you off.

I get the impression that your morality is like the scripting for Windows; one single letter out of place and it brings down the whole system... that is a new age over over-sensativity.

Of course, it's annoying to be generalized against, and sometimes it eve hurts. But if you go as far as you have, you're not even a paper tiger... you're more like a paper duck, or something...

[burkhartdesu]

mercedesjin


Honestly, awareness is key... but you're SO aware, it's starting to get annoying.

Being obsessed with the idea is just as bad as being a racist in the first place.

[burkhartdesu]

[Megabyte117]

Originally Posted by MMM

I think it is probably more ignorance than actual racism, and the image has its roots in imagery that was acceptable many decades ago, but not today. Unfortunately Japan doesn't always keep up with proper etiquette in American race relations, and gaffes like this occur.

Were the games producers intending to show discrimination against blacks with this game? I highly doubt it, so calling it "racist" seems a little over the top. Ignorant? Absolutely.

I think there needs to be some intention for it to be labeled "racist" and I don't see the intention, even if I do see the ignorance.

Exactly. I knew the story behind it, and wanted to see Mercedes reaction. I was not disappointed. I received the one I expected to.

[SSJup81]

Originally Posted by mercedesjin

MMM: Yet they're using an image that portrays the idea that one race is superior to the other. The child was ignorant of the fact that he/she had racist ideals. The Japanese that used this image are ignorant of the fact that portrays one race as superior to the other. Both still use racist ideas, whether they're aware of it or not.

I've said this in another thread. In the case of the Japanese, I don't feel it's racism, but ignorance of the history behind Lil black Sambo and blackface. I can't recall the music group, but there is one in Japan that does dress in blackface and performs jazz or something. If anything, seems they're "praising" blacks, but, they don't understand how that would be bad here.

To me, to be racist, you have to feel that your race is superior to another, just as MMM said. I don't get that impression with the Japanese. They just don't seem to know.I

[SeraphimMephistopheles]

taihen de fukai wadai da yo. arasou koto nashi ni sono shitsumon wo hakkiri kotaete miru yo. boku wa afurika kei amerikajin da yo. kazoku sae mo sono kotoba wo boku ni itte hoshikunai n da kedo, hontou ni wa sono kotoba wo tsukau no ga sukina afurika kei amerikajin ni tsuite hanashitai . afurika kei amerikajin wa sono kotoba wo tsukainagara, ta no hito ga sono gehin na kotoba wo tsukatte hoshikunai to itteta desho? maa. setsumei suru no wa totemo muzukashii to omou kedo, sono you ni shite miru yo. hakkiri rikai suru tame ni rekishi ni tsuite chotto hanasu hitsuyou ga aru. sono kotoba wa zutto mae totemo gehin datta. dorei no tame no kotodama you datta; moshi masuta wa temee ga n***** da to ittetara, yowai ningen da to iu koto datta. yowai ningen wa nanimo dekinakatta. Demo, afurika kei amerikajin wa ima sono kotoba wo tsukau no ga suki da (senzo ga afurika kara kita ikuninka wa sono kotoba wo tsukau no ga suki da to itta hou gai to omou)
karera wa ima dorei ja nai koto wo shitteru kara. sono kotoba no gehinna imi wo kaeta. [boku wa dorei ja nai]to iu koto datta. [senzo wo yasashiku osaeru tame ni masuta wa sono kotoba wo tsukatta kedo, ima atarashii imi ga aru]to iu koto da. teki wo makaru tameni teki no kengeki wo tsukau you da. Tonikaku, mada ichiban taisetsu na shitsumon wo kotaetenai: doushite hakujin wa sono kotoba wo tsukatte wa ikenai no? hakujin ga afurika kei amerikajin to sono kotoba wo iu to kiku koto ga aru. sore ni, boku no kankei ja nai to omotteru. senzo ga afurika kara kita ikuninka wa hakujin ga sono kotoba no fukai imi ga wakaranai to omotteru kara, hakujin ga sono kotoba wo tsukatte hoshikunai. kakkoyoku ni naru tame ni ikuninka wa sono kotoba wo tsukau no hou ga ii. boku no iken ni doui suru ka dou ka kamawanai. sono kotoba wo tsukau koto ni tsuite arasou no wa mueki da ne. dareka no sono kotoba ni tsuite no iken wo shiranai to sono kotoba wo iwanai. Hontou ni kantan da yo

Very serious and deep topic. Without arguing, I will try to clearly answer the question. I am african-american. I don't even want my family saying that word to me but, I want to talk about those african-americans who DO like using that word.. you were saying that while african-americans use that word, they don't white people to use it, right? In order to clearly explain I am going to have to talk a little about history. The word back then was very vulgar, it was a word for the slaves, it seems; if the master called you a n*****, it meant that you were a weak human being, and weak humans couldn't do anything. However, now african americans like to use that word (I should say that SOME people whose ancestors came from africa like to use that word), They know that they are not slaves now. They have changed the meaning of that vulgar word. It means, I am not a slave. It means, although the master used that word to easily contrl my ancestors, it now has a new meaning. It's like Defeating the enemy by using his own weapons. Anyway, I still haven't answered the most important question. Why can't white people say that word. I have heard whites using that word word with african-americans, and besides that, it's none of my business, as I see it. Some people whose ancestors came from africa feel that white people don't understand the deep meaning of that word, so they don't want them using it. Some people prefer to use that word to be cool. I don't care whether or not one agrees with my opinion. It is useless arguing about using that word. Unless you know someone's opinions about that word, don't say it. It's really simple