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I agree. I think some words should only be used by those within a certain group. For example, I wouldn't call a Pole a Polak or a German a Kraut etc etc. They can use it on themselves but I find those terms to have derogatory overtones.
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Thats what this thread boils down to. We don't wear the flag on our face less we insult kinder folks. Black people can't change their flag!
That is why black people are judged by their willingness to leave their flag at home and behave like everyone else who has left their flag at home.

When all flags and sigul's are left behind we can enjoy a good time with any enemy or friend. When the flag/sigul is carried around it can only provoke old sores in the most mild of people.

"I AM" is a shout best left in history unless you wish to follow it with "HUMAN".
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It's also all about avoiding the pack mentality. I'd be comfortable travelling with a Scottish flag to footie matches abroad. We have a great rep for making friends abroad. However, we have domestic hooligans who represent us badly abroad and I wouldn't like to be lumped in with them. Aberdeen FC, my local team, are bad for that.

The flag is, at best, symbolic but it just wheels out inaccurate stereotypes and prejudices. We live in a world where you are often guilty by association (Americans travel with Canadian flags on their rucksacks as it's safer).

Pride is felt within and shouldn't be rubbed in the face of others. I keep my flag in my flat and it goes nowhere.
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08-15-2009, 04:28 PM

I understand, but I talk of the flag as a spiritual embelishment. You do not need to carry the flag to be a flag carrier. You do not need to be black to be black!

Many of the SAS are jocks and they are fricking good at it. This does not mean they love jockland less, just that jockland has no kick ass swat team to join.

In the same way, many black people have been removed from a tribal existance, this does not mean they love africa less, just that they can now join a group that lets them behave like they were born to (plz, I know that sounds racist but hear me out).

People are people, and Black people have evolved in a country that advocates a tribal stregnth over other local tribes. Many young africans were selected and bred for these reasons. This is how it was easy for western slavers to use this against the africans. It is all to easy to offer a quick and efficient way to wipe out a local warring tribe with the exclusive rights to any surviving assets in exchange for the means to achive this. These terms were gladly accepted and many africans were exchanged for guns and assistance in enslaving their fellow people.

Let us not forget that it was tribal segrigation in africa that promoted slavery to the west. The west took advantage of a situation that still exists in africa to this day.

In africa today, many young children are still sold into an internal slavery market that has little to do with the west.
All you black people should get your lazy complaining asses over to your mother country and sort it out. Call oprah if you need help, she should be doing somthing with her money insted of buying cars for her audience, she get you a plane ticket into hell if you like. You can watch your black brethrin suffer while you are in your D&G slacks with your Gaultier perfum sprayed on your ass and your bling dripping into the faces of your less fortunate slaves.
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Oprah has been the lucky benefactor of the phenomenon known as chat shows. I'd venture my work as being more helpful but she cashes in big time. Rampant and wayward commercialism.

There was a program on when I was in Gradac, Croatia. It was about a black African-American from Sierra Leone. He was good enough to put his hand in his own pocket to fund certain projects there. Many don't.

Still, some countries need to acknowledge our debt to them. The AIDS virus was planted there and famine has been allowed to spiral out of control. Good souls like Bono and Gates have fought against it but even they don't have the resources to turn things around.
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There was a program on when I was in Gradac, Croatia. It was about a black African-American from Sierra Leone. He was good enough to put his hand in his own pocket to fund certain projects there. Many don't.
So he was an American from Sierra Leone?


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Yup, I can't remember his name though.
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Yup, I can't remember his name though.
Oh, I just thought you were trying to be overly PC by saying he was a black African American. I just thought he was an African being fom there.


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Nah, I try to avoid PC if I can. I like people who can put their money where their mouth is and follow through.
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Aids is a genetic loophole into which a virus can manipulate the hardcode of DNA into relaxing the immune system. I have already proposed using the same mechanism to deliver anti-cancer systems into targeted cells some 15 years ago. Aids/Hiv is not new. It has only become famous due to genetic failures that allow it to propigate and evolve at a much faster rate.

Africa is a group of countries that hate eachother, much like europe. The big difference is that in Europe we had some massive wars and killing fields, we learned that even the biggest tribe will not win against a tribe of smart people pushed to the max. Africa could not learn this as its development was singular in that it was only nessesery to defeat or hold back your neighbours in a small territory. While in Europe the territory demanded the movement of large troops and heavy equipment along with the supplies needed to feed and fuel this venture. This was learned from greeks and romans and war became a very large affair. In africa at the same time, war was between small villages and groups and tended to be a spear/bow and stone throwing affair. When our cultures met, there was no way the african way of war could match what we had learned in europe.

This is the old way. And africa has paid the price, Its children still want to claim it as their heritage yet can never see the way to part with a hard earned buck to help.

As I type this, over 10 children are being sold into african slavery to work in god aweful jobs and loosing their childhood. What do the african americans, so insulted by slavery, do?
NOTHING.

I am not sure that most african americans know what africa looks like on a map. They probably think that its the land of kangaroos and sheep dip.
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