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08-17-2009, 02:46 AM
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All things must have a source. There's no well thought through theory that things have always just existed. If there is, I challenge you to explain it. That is as daft as claiming a pile of dog shit can exist without any dogs around. It pretty much is the same exact thing. There's only one element that can exist without a source and can exist without a dimension to exist in. If you want to stand there and ask yourself where eggs came from all day, then answer they came from chickens... which lay more eggs... which make more chickens... so on and so on, you're a bit of an idiot if you don't ask yourself where the first chicken came from... you're even more stupid if you tell yourself it's another egg... People like you, I don't think they understand the whole product thing; products have producers. There's nothing in this world that does not have a parent element. If you talk about elements aside the Void (so any particle) existing before the Big Bang, then clearly the Big Bang was not the first moment of creation, and there's another moment you'll be searching to answer what produced these products. I think the idea that shit has always just existed is thought up by people not very clever. I heard once someone said why can't the planets always just have existed, why do they need to have been created. Pretty daft thing to say. Dirt can only be made by Fire. Thus, one time, there had to be a fire... keep tracing. I made this so you can better understand what I was talking about before:  The cycle looks continuos. That is only to explain our planet. At some stage, on the larger scale, it's inevitable that there was only Void, and nothing else. The eternal Saint is calling, through the ages she has told. The ages have not listened; the will of faith has grown old…
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08-17-2009, 02:52 AM
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The eternal Saint is calling, through the ages she has told. The ages have not listened; the will of faith has grown old…
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08-17-2009, 04:15 AM
Interesting video, however no one truly knows the origins of the omniverse. While many theories exist in science and religion, a definite and conclusive answer will not be revealed with such variables of primitive understanding. There are many gray areas in her theory, naturally, as evident in everyone's. Thus the reason it is a "theory", and not a conclusion. Nonetheless, a nice video. Time never existed however, time is merely a measurement used by humanity for schedules, endpoints, and cycles into their mental "clocks". I enjoyed studying astronomy when I was younger, and still do. Let it be known, that I respect everyone's own point of view. Please do not feel offended with my words. I apologize in advance for any assumed relation of feelings of the above stated.
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08-17-2009, 04:28 AM
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It seems all it takes to discredit something is a single person moral objection. Kind of funny; religous folk or others will sentence a person to death based on less evidence than what we have about the Big Bang or evolution. Ironic. Quote:
If you're reffering to what I said, I meant time was constructed of physical particles, and the Void element (or, the essence of life) exists independantly of time. So, for a truly awakened being, time is not a factor, it is not real TO THE VOID. But saying it isn't real as a whole is the same as saying water is not real. The eternal Saint is calling, through the ages she has told. The ages have not listened; the will of faith has grown old…
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08-17-2009, 04:35 AM
Perhaps the wording was misinterpreted. I am indeed sorry. I do agree with your clarification, as time is simply advancement, however we utilize time in a more exaggerated sense of the definition to establish our everyday tasks and followings with the proper accuracy needed to continue successfully. Universally, the word "time" is obsolete. Everything simply advances. As far as the theory being fact, do you merely believe it to be so, or do other factors drive you to your conclusion? Note that I too have read, watched, and discussed this with many individuals, however I would never state that it is fact without 100% validity in determining such to be true. Especially when one can place a date on the universe without actual knowing of its exact moment of conception.
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08-17-2009, 05:10 AM
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Time is literally a physical thing. I think it's closely linked with space (distance) also, which is also a physical thing. Quote:
I believe my mother is really my mother, but this is only based on evidence. Do I truly know? No, I don't. But, evidence proves it to me. Genetic linking, photographs, similar appearance, so on. All these things are just evidence that form a theory. But she's my mother, that is a fact. At some stage, evidence and theory become overwhelming, and cannot be denied as fact. The eternal Saint is calling, through the ages she has told. The ages have not listened; the will of faith has grown old…
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08-17-2009, 05:18 AM
It's hard to find pieces of work on time particles. There isn't much on it because not much research has been done, but it's a key factor to the entire Big Bang/Bounce theory.
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Big Bang or Big Bounce?: New Theory on the Universe's Birth: Scientific American The eternal Saint is calling, through the ages she has told. The ages have not listened; the will of faith has grown old…
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