JapanForum.com  


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
(#111 (permalink))
Old
JasonTakeshi's Avatar
JasonTakeshi (Offline)
Conceptual Doubt
 
Posts: 507
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: ポルトガル
02-03-2010, 12:43 AM

I was writing a wall-of-text when my PC shutdown. I was nearly the end.

Im so pissed that i will just say "BLAME THE HORMONES AND MCDONALDS".


Too many people spend money they haven't earned, to buy things they don't want, to impress people they don't like.

Last edited by JasonTakeshi : 02-03-2010 at 02:31 AM.
Reply With Quote
(#112 (permalink))
Old
manganimefan227's Avatar
manganimefan227 (Offline)
星の翼
 
Posts: 986
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: In a Starry Night with Fire flies
02-03-2010, 02:25 AM

I see it as sort of TV because the bad stuff people do (Jerry Springer, MTV ((Hip hop, R+B in general)) cussing and being a badass) is amusing and cool to them, well they'd love to do that and don't give a mushi what others say about it. At my old middle school people have faught so much we had 8 fights in one day.


My Life Sucks- The kids I babysit have drooled, ripped or drawn on all of the cards and put the cars with the little people in the microwave!

I have no Friends- The cats have scratched and destroyed all of the DVDs!

I always owe someone- In fact I put two os in it!

I always ruin my clothes with Bleach!- The show is so dom suspensful I spill my grape soda on them!

But . . .I'll live.
Reply With Quote
(#113 (permalink))
Old
Tyrien's Avatar
Tyrien (Offline)
I'm e-vincible.
 
Posts: 707
Join Date: Jan 2008
02-03-2010, 04:51 AM

This is where an interesting and very important question is raised. There's two sides to this.

There's the side that has people seeing what is in the media, then see teens acting a certain way and assuming it is because of the media. This is where we see an action we do not like in the media and purposefully look for this type of behavior in teens which effectively clouds any other actions we see them take.

Then there is the side where people see what is in the media, and how teens are portrayed in the media then assume that is actually what all teenagers are like.

Personally I feel most people take the side of the latter more often than the former. Neither are fair ways of passing judgement though. Both attempt to define an entire group of humans based on the few encounters we experience.

Every person commenting in this thread (and I'm guilty of this myself, it's just something we instinctively do) are referring to our personal experience with teenagers as "them". This suggests that we can fairly apply our limited municipal experience and scale it to a national level. That's not fair at all.

For the sake of argument let's talk about the numbers in the US - Just to tag a number to a population. There's roughly 300,000,000 legal US citizens. How often do we actually meet teenagers? How many different teens a day? In a week? In a month? In a year?

I'm going to go out on a limb and say for the majority of us here that number is less than 100 per year. Then the majority of that will be less than 50 a year. The majority of that will be less than 30 a year.

Then I want to ask how well we get to know these teens? Do we sit and get to know what's going on in their lives? Are they our class mates, or do we just meet them briefly out in the city?

I'm going to go out on another limb and say that the majority of us do not know anything significant about the personal lives of these. Then the majority of that won't even be able to tell us the teen's names.

So that leaves us with all these first hand accounts of how rude teens are, but is there really any substance to any of these? It doesn't really sound like there is. Especially considering the scale of a countries population. We're talking about annually encountering a number of teens that rests in the triple digits when the population of our countries rests in sextuple, septuple, or more likely octuple digits. It doesn't sound like our personal experience is giving us a very good grasp on reality.

It's very interesting to discuss this in generalities as we are, but it's nowhere near conclusive. We just don't have enough information to even hope to draw any accurate conclusions.

The problem lies in the media, we all feel like we know enough because we see people we do not know - people we have never and likely will never meet in the media. We have no insight on the personal lives of these people, but we draw lines based off those who preach their ideas on the media, then subconsciously treat them as our own. Slowly these people we see become our experiences.

eh... I should probably go to sleep.

tl;dr can't judge a book by it's cover.



Tyrien.DeviantArt~
As of 08/11/2008 5:33 PM Eastern Standard time I now officially own:
Miyavi, Kyo, Yuusuke, Maya, Gou, Aki, Aoi, Jun, Yusa, Jui, Key, Heechul, Yesung, Riku, Kei, Jyou, Satoshi, Takeru, Sin, Teddyloid, ♀Yooh♂, Reo, Tomoya, Tatsuro, Hitsugi, Kyoharu, Takanori Nishikawa, Jay Chou, Hirokai, Die, Kaoru, Shinya, and Toshiya.
Reply With Quote
(#114 (permalink))
Old
manganimefan227's Avatar
manganimefan227 (Offline)
星の翼
 
Posts: 986
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: In a Starry Night with Fire flies
02-04-2010, 06:14 AM

Stereyotyping? That is very true. My biggest dream is to be so different that I throw people off guard alot so they might not stereyotype others!


My Life Sucks- The kids I babysit have drooled, ripped or drawn on all of the cards and put the cars with the little people in the microwave!

I have no Friends- The cats have scratched and destroyed all of the DVDs!

I always owe someone- In fact I put two os in it!

I always ruin my clothes with Bleach!- The show is so dom suspensful I spill my grape soda on them!

But . . .I'll live.
Reply With Quote
(#115 (permalink))
Old
xYinniex's Avatar
xYinniex (Offline)
Quit yo' jibber jabber!
 
Posts: 2,090
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Awesome land
02-04-2010, 12:43 PM

msg and parents. Parents love their kids too much to let them do whatever. I was terrified of my mother, still am.

have you SEEN super nanny?!


"I'm sorry, but i must have given you the impression that I actually care about your opinions"
Reply With Quote
(#116 (permalink))
Old
RaimiiChan (Offline)
JF Regular
 
Posts: 39
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: アメリカ
02-04-2010, 07:02 PM

i agreeeee :`(


Lost for Lyrics♫♪♫
Reply With Quote
(#117 (permalink))
Old
manganimefan227's Avatar
manganimefan227 (Offline)
星の翼
 
Posts: 986
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: In a Starry Night with Fire flies
02-05-2010, 01:55 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by xYinniex View Post
msg and parents. Parents love their kids too much to let them do whatever. I was terrified of my mother, still am.

have you SEEN super nanny?!
How so MSG?


My Life Sucks- The kids I babysit have drooled, ripped or drawn on all of the cards and put the cars with the little people in the microwave!

I have no Friends- The cats have scratched and destroyed all of the DVDs!

I always owe someone- In fact I put two os in it!

I always ruin my clothes with Bleach!- The show is so dom suspensful I spill my grape soda on them!

But . . .I'll live.
Reply With Quote
(#118 (permalink))
Old
Trinket's Avatar
Trinket (Offline)
New to JF
 
Posts: 28
Join Date: Nov 2009
02-05-2010, 02:14 AM

It's just an age thing teens are going through a lot mentally. Also I don't think that necessarily had to do with them being teenagers they just don't appreciate a free education. Don't worry once they grow up and start paying for their own stuff and face reality they'll stop that kind of attitude quickly, most of them at least.
Reply With Quote
(#119 (permalink))
Old
manganimefan227's Avatar
manganimefan227 (Offline)
星の翼
 
Posts: 986
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: In a Starry Night with Fire flies
02-05-2010, 11:30 PM

You know I never thought of it like that. That is a great point!


My Life Sucks- The kids I babysit have drooled, ripped or drawn on all of the cards and put the cars with the little people in the microwave!

I have no Friends- The cats have scratched and destroyed all of the DVDs!

I always owe someone- In fact I put two os in it!

I always ruin my clothes with Bleach!- The show is so dom suspensful I spill my grape soda on them!

But . . .I'll live.
Reply With Quote
(#120 (permalink))
Old
Tyrien's Avatar
Tyrien (Offline)
I'm e-vincible.
 
Posts: 707
Join Date: Jan 2008
02-06-2010, 01:27 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Trinket View Post
It's just an age thing teens are going through a lot mentally. Also I don't think that necessarily had to do with them being teenagers they just don't appreciate a free education. Don't worry once they grow up and start paying for their own stuff and face reality they'll stop that kind of attitude quickly, most of them at least.
Appreciative ignorance is part of being a teenager, or rather it's part of not being an adult.



Tyrien.DeviantArt~
As of 08/11/2008 5:33 PM Eastern Standard time I now officially own:
Miyavi, Kyo, Yuusuke, Maya, Gou, Aki, Aoi, Jun, Yusa, Jui, Key, Heechul, Yesung, Riku, Kei, Jyou, Satoshi, Takeru, Sin, Teddyloid, ♀Yooh♂, Reo, Tomoya, Tatsuro, Hitsugi, Kyoharu, Takanori Nishikawa, Jay Chou, Hirokai, Die, Kaoru, Shinya, and Toshiya.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On




Copyright 2003-2006 Virtual Japan.
SEO by vBSEO 3.0.0 RC6