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09-12-2009, 05:29 AM
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This is all a pretty big generalization, Tenchu. I'm an American and I attended public school. In no way was the important of Russia during WWII, or the world in general, underplayed. This is more of a stab at America than an analysis of World War II. Quote:
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09-12-2009, 05:57 AM
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I'm getting the feeling that because of the power struggle played by American and Russia in the Cold War, the opinion and views of the Soviets and Stalin is very negative and there's a deep sewn hatred for communism that isn't really based on reality, just patriotic propaganda put out by American power-houses. America is generally so self centered, and official views of China and Russia and communism in general are so negative, they're not going to take any steps to try and idolize the actions of any communists, even if it means dumbing down the truth. The eternal Saint is calling, through the ages she has told. The ages have not listened; the will of faith has grown old…
For forever she will wander, for forever she withholds; the Demon King is on his way, you’d best not be learned untold…
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09-12-2009, 07:21 AM
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 What you said may have been true in the past, thanks to Joe McCarthy and the Red Scare, but today the disdain for Russia and China is due less in part to Communism (which doesn't exist in either country anymore), and more due to the corruption and violations of human rights that occur in those countries. I'm genuinely curious where your highly negative opinion of Americans come from. You've never had anything good to say about them ever since you've been on these forums. Have you really met that many Americans in person to form a solid opinion on them? Those silly surveys they conduct with Americans on The Chaser's War on Everything and other popular European/Australian programs are heavily edited and very unrepresentative. We aren't all flag-waving idiots who are bad at geography, mate.
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09-12-2009, 08:53 AM
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I can't remember exactley what it said on the back, but it was something along the lines of calling Hitler evil, and the only way we can stop a repeat of that war was to understand how he became so evil and stuff. My college history teacher also told me basically the same thing. I don't like that. I don't think it's a correct way to pass information by telling them your personal opinion of them. I mean, your own opinion has nothing to do with history. It's irrelevant. All you should do is lay down the facts and leave it up to the individual to realize their own opinion. Americans are always so absolute; they only believe their style of government works. All their own values are the best. They're the only just side in any conflict. So on. I mean, most people think they do everything the right way; why would you do something if you knew a better way to do it? I just get sick of the arrogance when people don't realize they might not be so perfect, and they should remain a bit more humble and open eared. Quote:
They're pretty good to other fellow Americans, regardless of race or religion. But the difference between American and China pretty much ends there. They're just as shocking in a war with war crimes. They treat animals like s***. Companies are full of corruption. These are the most common few things people dislike China for, yet America does them all too. I mean, I know individual Americans often dislike this stuff, but it's the goverment that does, as is in China. But when it's China's government doing it, it seems the entire nation is to blame. But when the US government does it, it's a frowned upon "scandal" where the only people accountable are the ones who were there and did it themselves. I think this views around because of some kind of selfish thing again; they know them as a person would never do such a horrible thing, so they think they're not a part of it, i.e. it isn't Americas fault, it's George Bush's fault, as an individual. But unable to think of others, where George Bush is currupt, the entire nation of China is to blame for the same things. It's hard to say anyone's right in such a mess, but it's the smart thing to do is not be biased, look at what's really happening and why, and when you tell someone else about the event, tell them the truth, not your view of it, as you're not watching from the pristine perspective, no one is. Quote:
But the culture of a nation has a massive impact on the entire population in a very subtle way. You may not see it. I do. I like Russians better. The eternal Saint is calling, through the ages she has told. The ages have not listened; the will of faith has grown old…
For forever she will wander, for forever she withholds; the Demon King is on his way, you’d best not be learned untold…
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09-12-2009, 10:40 AM
As a whole for years of war the American deliveries in the USSR did not exceed 4 % of all military products delivered to front by a national economy of the USSR. For years of war the main deliveries on lend-lizu went the Great Britain, they in 3 times exceeded the sizes of deliveries to Soviet Union in spite of the fact that the USSR carried the main weight of struggle against fascism.
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09-12-2009, 10:45 AM
Read memoirs of one tankman, it was as a part of group of the Soviet officers which accepted tanks for the army (lendliz). Well about that what they opinions were about the American tanks, I think to speak it is not necessary. Whether they met tanks "General" on mine. Has surprised them and a construction, and track chain (of tanks) which in battle burnt out also much-much. it has not liked them. But... Tanks went straight from factories and it расказывает, that in all possible places found sendings with notes from workers of America. In a mouth, in cartridge containers, etc.
So I think at that time simple Americans to USSR sincerely helped. From $43 billion, which USA the help, the Soviet Army which has routed 3/4 military hallows(powers) of Germany have selected(allocated) on Lendliz and other designs, has gained only 9 billion (20 %), while Britain - 30 billion Deliveries broke permanently(were permanently disturbed). Though, of course, there was an engineering, the foodstuffs(food) the equipment, for what it(him) gratitude. It is yet necessary to forget, that is parallel with deliveries in the USSR (not free by the way), the USA were delivered in huge sizes by(with) oil for needs of Germany. The USA has quitted this war by financial centre of the world and till now reaps these fruits. For this reason, they can shoot now not so truthful films, spend huge money for ideology all over the world, including on the Internet Anybody did not give to Soviet Union on lend-lizu anything. For all Soviet Union has settled up. At first in million lives for a victory over Germany and clearing(release) of another's countries, then for lend-liz. And all it has made Russian people..
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09-12-2009, 11:03 AM
What language do you speak?
The eternal Saint is calling, through the ages she has told. The ages have not listened; the will of faith has grown old…
For forever she will wander, for forever she withholds; the Demon King is on his way, you’d best not be learned untold…
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