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10-07-2009, 01:30 AM

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Basically it means that if review something you got for free, then you have to expressly and clearly say, "I didn't buy this video game, but got a free copy from the publisher".

It's an attempt to separate the dying print media with online media, specifically bloggers.
now that seems kind of stupid. i do oldschool game reviews on youtube. does that mean i have to start saying that i got these games for free? even though the company that made the game has gone out of buissnes and the media for that system is deemed opsoleet?
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10-07-2009, 01:48 AM

Trunker, I agree with you, that the target is people with corporate sponsorship, like flogs (people actually paid to blog) and people with advertisers who earn money that way.

Unfortunately, people like me, that do not have advertisers (by choice) and do not get paid to do a blog are swept into this same group. I do get free copies from the publishers, but do review honestly and have never been asked to review one way or another by any publisher, nor would the free status influence my reviews. "Any publicity is good publicity" is what publishers tell me.

So I think people getting free laptops and Bahamian vacations and talk about them online should be forthcoming that those things were free, because I don't think people assume they are. But getting into a press showing of a movie, a convention, or a book or comic book? I would always assume the press got those things for free, anyway. I would never guess a film critic PAID to see a movie, so I think there is a line between "luxury items" ...say anything over $40.00... that should be stated, but reviews if items under $40.00 should be the reviewers choice to say or not. I think this because for such (relatively) small scale items there is little likelihood they will get a good review just because the publisher gave it to the reviewer. On the other hand, forcing the reviewer to reveal he got a $2.99 comic book for free makes his review, I think, sound suspect.

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now that seems kind of stupid. i do oldschool game reviews on youtube. does that mean i have to start saying that i got these games for free? even though the company that made the game has gone out of buissnes and the media for that system is deemed opsoleet?
Are you getting the titles from a licensor of the titles?

Twitter and Facebook are also supposed to be covered, but I have seen no talk about online videos, or podcasts, so I do not know.

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10-07-2009, 02:56 AM

true it is unfortunate that some one like you gets swept up in it as well, and honestly, in this day and age of advertising on everything, this legislation really shouldnt be necessary. as you say, it should be obvious to everyone,...

its more a sign of the litigious blame someone else but hold my hand culture that is going mad, its like people cant think critically anymore.

what ever happened to dont believe anything you read, web or otherwise?

and whats worse is that someone actually put the time and effort into making it law?
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true it is unfortunate that some one like you gets swept up in it as well, and honestly, in this day and age of advertising on everything, this legislation really shouldnt be necessary. as you say, it should be obvious to everyone,...

its more a sign of the litigious blame someone else but hold my hand culture that is going mad, its like people cant think critically anymore.

what ever happened to dont believe anything you read, web or otherwise?

and whats worse is that someone actually put the time and effort into making it law?
I don't know that it is legislation or a law, but a regulation (essentially the same, really) but the FTC like the FCC can make its own regulations for people it says fits under its umbrella.

I think the intentions of this regulation are probably valuable. If people are being paid to blog because corporations see that bloggers can build followings and trust in readers then people do have the right to know who is signing that blogger's paycheck. However the thousands and probably tens of thousands of people like me that do it for the love of doing it should not be penalized.
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10-07-2009, 03:21 AM

"alliwantforxmasisapsp", anyone?


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"alliwantforxmasisapsp", anyone?
Instead of embarrassing themselves again, Sony, I am sure, pays people to post positive reviews in blogs. That's the nature of the game in 2009.
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10-07-2009, 03:38 AM

The only other opinions I have about this subject is what may be a basic reaction: restrictions are being placed on online news/information sites to make them appear less credible compared to print media. But then I remember the whole Spore/PC Gamer thing a year or so ago, and it makes print media not look so saintly anyway.


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10-07-2009, 10:50 AM

It's about time they started doing something with bloggers.
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10-07-2009, 12:52 PM

I have no problem with the disclosure regulation, except that it needs to apply unilaterally. Yes, professionals operate under company policies limiting graft, but without a legal requirement to disclose it enforcement within any company is haphazard at best. This is an equal rights issue as well as 1st amendment. If it is published publicly, amateur or professional, the same law needs to apply.

I write restaurant reviews these days as an "amateur" and I really do welcome the oversight, within limits. I have seen far too much of what amounts to low-level payolla going on to influence reviews. I even had a recent, rather heated, discussion with a manager when he openly attempted to influence my review - first with special treatment and then threatening a friend.

But having also worked as a professional journalist in the 1990s, I absolutely insisted that this regulation be applied to ALL reviewers who publish ANYWHERE. The corruption is largely unreported on corporate levels unless a colleague finds out and decides to rat you out, or the company starts investigating for anything they can use to terminate you.


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10-07-2009, 04:20 PM

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