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10-14-2009, 12:22 AM

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Yeah, I did watch the whole thing. I agree that overall it is a positive clip, however, for someone that has heard only good things from the media about Obama (overly positive in many cases), the negatives had a bigger impact! When you've spoken about this in the past, I assumed it was because the election was so fresh, so people that didn't vote for Obama, would naturally be negative towards him. I didn't realise it was this severe. I guess this explains why you were on the defensive about my posts. I hope you don't think I have that Obama Derangement Syndrome.

To be honest, I haven't read every post in this thread. I did see some negativity, but that was more about policy, rather than the man himself!

As for why would you not post it, I don't know. I just wanted the know the purpose of it! What you wanted to achieve. For example, if you posted the acceptance speech to illustrate him being noble and gentlemen like about accepting such a prize, I would have understood.
You've only heard good things about Obama in the left-wing media because they have tossed out any pretense of objectivity and are covering up his blunders and faults, of which there are many. They simply refuse to report any of it, you need to go to alternative sources to find out what's really going on. There is indeed a great deal of opposition to Obama's radical agenda, and the man himself. In much of the country, he is not well liked at all, and I expect that anger to grow by leaps and bounds if Cap and Tax, govt-run healthcare and govt-funded abortions, amnesty for illegal aliens, handouts to leftist organizations like ACORN, appointing corrupt czars, bailouts, and a failure to turn the economy around continues for the rest of his term...


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10-14-2009, 12:32 AM

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Hello all. As some may know, the President has won the Nobel Peace Prize. Some people are against that. I never thought much of those who did win all these prizes and awards and stuff. It's nice if they did, but it would never bother me.

So, why is this a problem? Why do you feel some people have a problem with his being offered this award?

If you mods don't want this thread here, I understand, so I guess you can just lock it, but I feel that we can constructively discuss this without getting to insulting and disrespectful.
First off...you do not 'win' it. It is given to you for nobel acts that you do. Obama has not done anything! It is his job! He is the president!!!!! He was elected! There is no nobel act in that! It's just a form of a populatrity contest with bigger stakes!!!! Geez...
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You've only heard good things about Obama in the left-wing media because they have tossed out any pretense of objectivity and are covering up his blunders and faults, of which there are many. They simply refuse to report any of it, you need to go to alternative sources to find out what's really going on. There is indeed a great deal of opposition to Obama's radical agenda, and the man himself. In much of the country, he is not well liked at all, and I expect that anger to grow by leaps and bounds if Cap and Tax, govt-run healthcare and govt-funded abortions, amnesty for illegal aliens, handouts to leftist organizations like ACORN, appointing corrupt czars, bailouts, and a failure to turn the economy around continues for the rest of his term...
Completely agree with you in that, bud! ^^ Here's a site I think you might enjoy: ACLJ • American Center for Law & Justice
I enjoy their updates, they aren't fluff...they actually say something...


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10-14-2009, 02:00 AM

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First off...you do not 'win' it. It is given to you for nobel acts that you do. Obama has not done anything! It is his job! He is the president!!!!! He was elected! There is no nobel act in that! It's just a form of a populatrity contest with bigger stakes!!!! Geez...
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Here we go again with people not reading before they post. You are wrong, first of all he was nominated before he was president. Go watch the video posted by MMM on the previous page if you do not actually know the process in which a person is nominated and decided the winner. Just posting what you did shows you dont know. Something Given has no merit so yes he did WIN it. Popularity contest huh? thats your opinion as you are entitled to it i wont respond to that.

If you dont like him just say so that i could respect but to post misinformation is irresponsible on your part. Fact remains is if it was not Obama in office but Mccain people would be bitching over different issues if it was not Mccain and some other poor guy people would still bitch. This is has happened and its going to continue to happen as long as we have a president. You cant please the whole world (especially America in the past 15 years) whether it be leftwing or rightwing the political bashing will never cease. I find it funny his approval ratings are still positive and since he won the prize he approval rating went up by 4% among independents.



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10-14-2009, 02:03 AM

Okay...so I didn't know, I'm sorry, just responding to the original thingy. I don't have the time to read 11pgs. worth of this. I don't like him no. He has done many bad things, and that I do not respect, it's not because of his race, nor his political stance. It's what you do, not the extra fluff.


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Okay...so I didn't know, I'm sorry, just responding to the original thingy. I don't have the time to read 11pgs. worth of this. I don't like him no. He has done many bad things, and that I do not respect, it's not because of his race, nor his political stance. It's what you do, not the extra fluff.
There thats better say you dont like him. Dont sugar coat it by jumping on the bandwagon thats what i dont respect, which is what you did by posting wrong info. I dont like Mccain because of the policy's i felt he would enact. Different points of view no harm no foul.

The video is on page 16 and its only 10 min and points out a lot good facts. You think hes done bad things we are going to disagree on that one since iv personally seen the good hes done so there is no point beating it to death.


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10-14-2009, 02:21 AM

*shurgs* I'm talkin' to somebody, and plus...
I wouldn't want to be contradicting what you said:
"Jumping on the banwagon of false fatcs."
To each his own, and I am leaving here before I get cussed out...
Oh, and by the way, I wanted neither of the final contestants to win...I wanted Huckabee to win...


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10-14-2009, 02:41 AM

That video is as factual as anything put out by Glenn Beck. Honestly, it's just tripe, Beck would be singing Bush's Praises now if he had won said Noble and she would be bashing him for the same reason. These talk show people are like Red Sox and Yankee's fans, right now the Yankee's are at Bat, eventually it will be the Red Sox again and the situation will reverse itself.

They gave him the Noble for bringing American policy more inline with European worldview, wich is unfortuante. America isnt Europe, doesn't think like Europe, react to the world the same way Europe does, nor behave the same way as Europe on the international stage.
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That video is as factual as anything put out by Glenn Beck. Honestly, it's just tripe, Beck would be singing Bush's Praises now if he had won said Noble and she would be bashing him for the same reason. These talk show people are like Red Sox and Yankee's fans, right now the Yankee's are at Bat, eventually it will be the Red Sox again and the situation will reverse itself.

They gave him the Noble for bringing American policy more inline with European worldview, wich is unfortuante. America isnt Europe, doesn't think like Europe, react to the world the same way Europe does, nor behave the same way as Europe on the international stage.
Doesn't matter whose at bat you still get a ball thrown at you sometimes its just aimed at you head.


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Doesn't matter whose at bat you still get a ball thrown at you sometimes its just aimed at you head.
True, but the team who doesn't do drugs, and pollute the name of baseball, is always granted the better face, and the better honor...
Translation: But the government admin. that doesn't pollute it's country's name is always looked up upon, and it also tends to have more honorable people within it...


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