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could you please elaborate and post some links to substantial/ credible news articles explaining how the pranks you speak of were harmful and where they happened?
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For those unfamiliar with the numerous videos now surfacing on YouTube.com and other video-sharing websites, the prank involves jokesters who drive up to a drive-thru window, place an order and then proceed to yell, "Fire in the hole?" as they throw the drink back on the employee. These less-than-tasteful encounters are usually recorded on cell phones or other video devices to be posted online. The term "sophomoric" only begins to describe the behavior.
"Fire in the hole" is a warning more commonly used by demolitions personnel when explosives are about to go off. While less deadly in the drive-thru setting, the phrase is no less volatile. Many employees have described feeling demeaned and infuriated by the prank, and some have even thrown drinks back at offending customers--which really doesn't constitute good service, but just might be warranted. Usually, the pranksters order a drink and then heave it back, but in one instance in Pennsylvania earlier this month a Subway employee was hit with a liquid transported by the jokers that was believed to contain ingredients like pepper juice that stung the employee's eyes. Needless to say, police are hot on the trail of that offender.
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11-11-2009, 06:08 AM

see, now those are the kind of actions that entail serious punishment for the perpetrators... actions which cause damage to company property or actual harassment/ injury of employees ... not singing



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see, now those are the kind of actions that entail serious punishment for the perpetrators... actions which cause damage to company property or actual harassment/ injury of employees ... not singing
So are you saying the prank in this case was justified?
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11-11-2009, 06:27 AM

i don't understand the question, i was simply saying the case reported by the op should have gone unpunished and unreported, but the instances where employees are harassed and/or harmed or property is damaged, the instigators need to be held legally responsible and punished by local law enforcement..



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i don't understand the question, i was simply saying the case reported by the op should have gone unpunished and unreported, but the instances where employees are harassed and/or harmed or property is damaged, the instigators need to be held legally responsible and punished by local law enforcement..
Unfortunately for these kids, drive-thru operators work in fear of getting hot coffee, fire crackers, paint balls and worse thrown in their faces (go on YouTube...there are tons of videos) so we live in a time where messing around on the drive-thru mic is no longer a harmless prank. Ten years ago, maybe, but this is a different time.
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we can't live in a system of fear... to go down that road is to invite control in your life... usually by govt functions, but not always... many many females, and even the occasional male have been raped, but i do not live my life in fear of this... there are too many things that anyone in the world can do to harm you at any time, so what's the point in worrying about it too much.. sure, take precautions.. if anything, this is an invitation for fast food business to develop a better drive through delivery system



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Nice ideals, but it doesn't really work for society. People make decisions every day due to fears. Would you go to a park at night that many people have been raped at and not fear it? Would you walk through a neighborhood known for a very high crime rate?

Yes, you would take precautions. Why would you not consider this taking precaution?
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we can't live in a system of fear... to go down that road is to invite control in your life... usually by govt functions, but not always... many many females, and even the occasional male have been raped, but i do not live my life in fear of this... there are too many things that anyone in the world can do to harm you at any time, so what's the point in worrying about it too much.. sure, take precautions.. if anything, this is an invitation for fast food business to develop a better drive through delivery system
You say you didn't understand my question, and it is the same place where Dark got lost.

If what the kids did wasn't wrong, that means that it was right. So I ask you, please justify the behavior.

We can't live in a system of fear, but drive-thru attendants are now the constant victims of late night pranks which can also be called harassment and even assault. This is reality.

So when someone is messing on the drive-thru mic do I think "Oh, those silly kids. What'll they think of next?" or do I think "Oh crap! What are they going to do when they get to the window?!?"

This is why I cannot call someone and breathe heavy into the phone. Sure, I am not "doing anything" but that doesn't mean it isn't a form of harassment.

I don't know why you are bringing in "gov't functions" here. This has nothing to do with the government.

Of course you could be a victim of violence at any time. But I lock my car and lock my house. That's not living in fear. That's just common sense. Ten years ago I could meet a friend at the airport at his gate. Now I have to wait in a pre-security area. That's how the world changes. Too bad these kids weren't living in the 80s when people didn't have YouTube, flip-cams and nothing better to do.
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11-11-2009, 07:06 AM

i walk through dangerous neighborhoods all the time.. it's where i live

and if i were to justify it, it is creative - it is art



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i walk through dangerous neighborhoods all the time.. it's where i live

and if i were to justify it, it is creative - it is art
Art, huh?

Was that the intention of the "artists" when they starting pranking the drive-thru mic?

Should art include unwilling participants?
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