Bowing to the emperor

[burkhartdesu]

How could you go to Japan and not do a low-bow (especially to the emperor)?


This is just ridiculous right-wing attempt to start a damn race war (along with the Kanye West/Taylor swift thing )

[onlybyron]

no offence to any americans but this line is just a load of bull S***:
"He means to teach Americans to bow before monarchs and tyrants," railed Power Line's Scott Johnson

HA what a D*** it's just suck bull crap, if any country are tyrants it is america (once again, no offence), but me saying "americans are tyrents" is steriotypicle, so ill say mr scott johnson is a bloody ass bandit (lol) and (stop byron, befor you start getting racist) and needs to learn his place...
i live in england and think japan is the world greatest country, look what it ha brought the modern world.

thats all im saying cos im tired have a nice day, oh and before i forget, DONT BOW TO THE EMPEROR cos apparently according to scott, hes a *tyrant*

Luvs, and do bow to teh emperor cos he rocks

[darksyndrem]

Originally Posted by onlybyron

no offence to any americans but this line is just a load of bull S***:
"He means to teach Americans to bow before monarchs and tyrants," railed Power Line's Scott Johnson

HA what a D*** it's just suck bull crap, if any country are tyrants it is america (once again, no offence), but me saying "americans are tyrents" is steriotypicle, so ill say mr scott johnson is a bloody ass bandit (lol) and (stop byron, befor you start getting racist) and needs to learn his place...
i live in england and think japan is the world greatest country, look what it ha brought the modern world.

thats all im saying cos im tired have a nice day, oh and before i forget, DONT BOW TO THE EMPEROR cos apparently according to scott, hes a *tyrant*

Luvs, and do bow to teh emperor cos he rocks

Is English your first language?

[Nyororin]

I find it quite interesting how the reaction is completely different in Japan - with his visit seen as incredibly great, the bow to the emperor the cherry on top. Here it is being brought up in the news as a sign that he actually did some research before coming to Japan.

[darksyndrem]

Originally Posted by Nyororin

I find it quite interesting how the reaction is completely different in Japan - with his visit seen as incredibly great, the bow to the emperor the cherry on top. Here it is being brought up in the news as a sign that he actually did some research before coming to Japan.

It seems as though the saying goes, "If you can't say something negative, don't say anything at all" in American news.

[clintjm]

Originally Posted by Salvanas

Keep in mind that I am also British.

So?

Originally Posted by Salvanas

Aye, every country has it's prejudices, but I'm fairly certain that each country has a certain that is more prominent than the rest.

So America and England is the top of your list in your book overall, or just in comparison to Japan?

Originally Posted by Salvanas

To say that bowing to an old enemy is disrespectful is like saying that being civil to an old rival is disrespectful to your own morals.

Yes, they have a history. But bringing it up as an excuse is disrespectful in itself.

I didn't say anything of the sort and neither did the article from foxnews. And an excuse for what; saying that Americans and the Brittish are Arrogant and have a superiority complex?

The point is this is just a luxury the leaders of the free world do not have. That is why there are rules of protocol, which he continues to violate. He is there are the president of the US and the leader of the free world (if that title has any meaning anymore), not as American visitor Obama and should be neutral in his representation of the American people.


Read the full article about why this is even news:
Obama Draws Fire for Bow to Japanese Emperor - FOXNews.com

"When you're representing the United States of America, everything speaks ... on behalf of our country," "It's a visual. It shows more of a subservient look."

"She said Obama was clearly trying to show respect, but that the royal couple would not expect such a gesture from a Western leader. Eyring, who reviewed the video of the encounter, said they seemed a "bit uncomfortable" watching Obama bow. "

"Former President Clinton got slammed for coming close to bowing to the Japanese emperor in 1994. The New York Times ridiculed him, noting, "The image on the South Lawn was indelible: an ob-sequent President, and the Emperor of Japan." But the paper wrote that the "thou need not bow" standard in State Department protocol has been constant since the country's founding."

[darksyndrem]

@Clint, don't get so off topic, you sound like your just assaulting Salv now.

[noodle]

the US must be very bored at the moment... Seriously? Making such a big fuss about a bow? What's the news gonna say the day he kisses a North African leader on the cheeks? That Obama is gay?

[MMM]

Clint, are you making this argument because you think it, or are playing devil's advocate?

I don't need to read the article to see why it is news, all I need to see is the words "FOX News".

Fox attacks President Obama over a bow - Daily Kos TV (beta)

[Platoface]

Originally Posted by MMM

Let's be clear. "Americans" did not go crazy. Conservative critics who are paid to comment and criticize everything the president does in order to fill a 24 hour news day went crazy.

You mean "crazy" like liberal democrats did for EIGHT years while Bush was president. That kind of crazy? You liberals are funny people.