|
|
|
||||
|
||||
|
11-18-2009, 09:59 AM
Quote:
 
|
|
|
|||
|
|||
|
11-18-2009, 10:05 AM
Quote:
|
|
|
||||
|
||||
|
11-18-2009, 10:42 AM
This argument is utter nonsense. Marijuana is illegal, and those who use it are breaking the law. Those who knowingly break the law deserve whatever penalty they get. We can't choose the laws we wish to obey, and those we wish to ignore. Words can't describe the stupidity and ignorance of those who claim that marijuana is "beneficial", and that marijuana hurts no one.
Marijuana has killed tens of thousands of people in Mexico over the last few years. Smuggling pot into America to satisfy the illegal wants of America's stupid and ignorant has led to the formation of bloodthirsty gangs, who kill anyone and everyone who stands in their way. This bloodshed is not the fault of the law, it is the fault of the lawbreakers. Yet, those who smoke pot do as weak-willed and weak-minded people often do, and reassign blame to someone else: "it's the government's fault all those people are dying, and that the jails are full of drug offenders" they say. Others, who are equally stupid, claim that they "grow their own", or buy it from Canada, so that they aren't contributing to the mass murder occurring along the Southern Border. But that's not entirely true. At one time or another they have smoked marijuana smuggled in from Mexico. People driving under the influence of marijuana often get into traffic accidents, and many of these accidents result in serious injury or fatalities. Marijuana smoke contains many of the same noxious chemicals found in tobaccos (fertilizer, insecticides, etc.), so smoking marijuana is not a safe alternative to tobacco. Added to this is the increased likelyhood of mental illness which young users may contract as a result of smoking marijuana. Studies have proven a link between marijuana use and schizophrenia in young marijuana smokers, and these studies are becoming more and more frightening. It's estimated that as many as half of those suffering schizophrenia today may have had the onset of their disease caused by smoking marijuana. Once again, marijuana is illegal, and those who smoke it are not rebels or enlightened-beings-to-whom-mortal-laws-do-not-apply, they are merely lawbreakers, and often stupid ones at that. Tobacco is legal, and it is heavily taxed. The government collects billions of dollars in tax revenue from the sale of tobacco. Unfortunately, the cost of health care, lost productivity, and early death far outweigh the revenue gained from taxation. The argument that the taxing of legalized drugs would somehow increase tax revenue is an empty one. Billions are already spent treating drug addiction, how much more would be spent if everyone over the age of 18 were allowed to use drugs? You might argue that marijuana is not addictive, but how many heroine, cocaine, or crack addicts have you met that have never smoked marijuana? "If you think that gets you high, you should try this!" The road to addiction starts with a single joint, hit, sniff, or whatever. This road leads to crime, heartbreak, prison, and often death. Those who are lucky find rehabilitation, and a strong regret for ever having started down the road in the first place. The rest count the minutes until their next hit, or count the day on the calender as they sit behind bars. Drug laws and enforcement should not be relaxed, they should be strengthened. Making drugs illegal does not necessarily increase crime. Drugs are illegal in Japan, and illegal drug use here is uncommon. Why? Because Japan enforces drug laws without mercy. There is no "slap on the wrist" for those who are arrested for using or dealing in drugs. Marijuana residue found in an ashtray in your car or home is enough to send you to prison. People in Japan take the law seriously, and give it the respect it deserves. Those who break the laws do so knowing the consequences, and they deserve no sympathy When they are caught, they usually take responsibility for their actions, and serve their time quietly. Marijuana may have been used in China for 2700 years for medicinal purposes, but that is no longer the case. If you think Japan is tough on illegal drug use, you should see how China enforces their drug laws. In China it is far easier (and less expensive) to simply execute drug dealers and hardcore addicts than it is to imprison them, so that is the most common punishment. Execution often occurs minutes after conviction, there are no appeals. There is no merit to marijuana use, legal or illegal. Any medicinal benefits which smoking marijuana provides can be found in tablet form, so the actual smoking is not necessary. These tablets (marinol) are available now, and have been available for many years to those who have a prescription for them. It has never been necessary to allow people to grow and smoke medicinal marijuana when they can simply go to any drug store and get a pill which provides the same treatment.
|
|
|
||||
|
||||
|
11-18-2009, 12:58 PM
Quote:
Marijuana is very bad for you. EDIT: Oh, and to make matters worse, he's addicted, and still smokes. He's at risk of death, yes. The eternal Saint is calling, through the ages she has told. The ages have not listened; the will of faith has grown old…
For forever she will wander, for forever she withholds; the Demon King is on his way, you’d best not be learned untold…
|
|
|
||||
|
||||
|
11-18-2009, 01:12 PM
Quote:
I can find a reference to say almost anything I want, but I prefer to use personal experience. Oh, and nobody listen to him. He does not know what he's talking about. Where some people have good self control, others may not. In fact, I recall, once we'd smoked and finished our weed, we'd drain the bong with a sift to get out any weed that had not burned so we could smoke it again. We loved it that much, we could have smoked well over $100 AUD in a single night. Also, even though some of us did not smoke cigarettes, few people enjoy smoking weed without tobacco mixed in. It's not hard to have gone through a few smokes a day in just spinning out a mix, adding to the addiction. Regardless of what Mr. Sound Science here will try and have you think, inhailing large amounts of smoke of any kind is not good for you and never will be. Marijuana is extremely addictive. Not many people are sure why, it's a placebo. But it can drown out your life in trying to feed it. Of course, many people can keep it under control, and they'll form up the better half of statistics. I'm sure, also, with a clean and regular supply, any herion addict could live a successful and healthy life without any problems. But every once in a while, someones life goes down the toilet, usually with a noose around their neck. It's up to you whether or not taking away the enjoyment of everyone for the sake of an unfortunate few is worth it or not, but it's something you have to consider. Not much different than wearing a motorbike helmet; most people will never need them, but we keep the law enforced for the sake of those who will. Nuff said. The eternal Saint is calling, through the ages she has told. The ages have not listened; the will of faith has grown old…
For forever she will wander, for forever she withholds; the Demon King is on his way, you’d best not be learned untold…
|
|
|
||||
|
||||
|
11-18-2009, 02:44 PM
If those here that say marijuana shouldn't be legalized and that they lean towards the reports that say it is harmful/evil, would you then say bring back prohibition on alcohol and start one on tobacco? Why or why not? I mean alcohol is addictive, physically unhealthy to an extent, and gets you drunk.
|
|
|
|||
|
|||
|
11-18-2009, 02:56 PM
Quote:
I would say it's the same with tobacco and marijuana, to an extent, but I don't know much about either of those.
|
|
|
||||
|
||||
|
11-18-2009, 03:21 PM
Quote:
Tobacco, well, it's for stupid people. But, can I ask you; why should we actually bother to legalize weed? There are plenty of people who can say why not. But let's hear someone who says why we should. Give us some good reasons. The eternal Saint is calling, through the ages she has told. The ages have not listened; the will of faith has grown old…
For forever she will wander, for forever she withholds; the Demon King is on his way, you’d best not be learned untold…
|
|
|
||||
|
||||
|
11-18-2009, 05:45 PM
Quote:
I would think that is a little harsh to say tobacco is for stupid people. With this logic the same could go for those who lots of eat deep fried food or heavy deserts regularly. The same as to drink until intoxication. I think my post on page one summed up my opinion on this for legalization, but many others in this thread summed it up better than me... especially on the arguments of prohibition. Look at the costs of medical marijuana as well. Take this burden out of the health care system. The question is really how is this different than alcohol? There are no studies I have read here or anywhere that can prove without a shadow of a doubt that the physical or mental issues associated with the body outweigh the issues with tobacco or alcohol. Sure there would be those who would abuse it, but the same can be done with alcohol.
|
 |
| Thread Tools | |
|
|
