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11-26-2009, 05:57 PM

...especially because Halloween is just for getting candy in the US, Canada, and any other place where people "celebrate" it according to whoever came up with the idea of dressing up and giving out candy on that particular day(what exactly IS there to celebrate?). XD Such is the deviation from it's original purpose, and sadly enough, that's what she's talking about.
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11-26-2009, 11:47 PM

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But also think of all the other holidays that just aren't recognized really anymore.

I'm amazed at the amount of stores and businesses open on Thanksgiving and even Christmas now and just close early. It sickens me a bit the more and more we lose ourselves.

Most companies (like mine) today only recognize 5 US national holidays. When I look at the international branches, those countries recognize an astounding amount more, even our branches in Japan. but I'm a bit off topic now...

I actually throw up a little in my mouth every time I hear "memorial day sale" or "Veterans day sale" or whatever <insert> sale.

I don't know about the whole nation but since when did Halloween becoming like a month and a half event. I mean the Halloween stores and decore shows up in mid September.

Don't let Black Friday get you down.. its just another stupid artificial holiday to sell you stuff that will be on sale at a later date or somewhere else anyway. For some its a "sport"

I wonder how many casualties there will be this year.
I totally agree, I think it's rather repulsive that the American government has allowed it's society to be so lax about rememberance and such. It's offensive to me as a family member of a deceased Veteran that people make such a big deal out of shopping when it's time to remember those who gave their life for our country...

Yes, I also find it strange that there's a huge time period for Halloween...I dress up and all, but I find it rediculous to be so elaborate...

I don't think I want to know the calsualty toll this year...

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11-26-2009, 11:52 PM

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this one year i was in kuwat, in the middle east, and the new years fell on something like a tuesday or wednesday,....

well the government decided that new years day should be moved closer to the weekend so people could have a nice long weekend, so the holidays that year were actually on the 3rd or something like that.

we all still got smashed on the 31st anyway
lol...See, now, I have nothing against really that because the government's trying to do something nice for it's people...not trying to fix it's ecomonic problem or whatever by switching around a (should be) respectable holiday...

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11-26-2009, 11:54 PM

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Since I was a kid there's been this weird kind of push to make Halloween the same kind of mega commercial event in the UK as it is in the USA. Although, where I live everyone has looked at all the hype in the shops and gone 'bugger that!' and gone out Halloween night to avoid the trick or treaters.

So I suppose the restaurants benefit, but Urgh. Halloween is for little kiddies and student house parties; I wish they'd stop encouraging drunk vindictive teens to go about harassing people on their own doorsteps.
Same here...it's become another excuse to drink, and act like idiots in front of everyone...

It hasn't really been fun anymore these past years, and it's disappointing. I think countries should have more safe, fun, and family friendly events that everyone can attend without an issue...Unfortunately, it's not realistic...T.T

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11-26-2009, 11:57 PM

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In the UK the only holidays we have unique to us are Guy Fawkes Day and Remeberance Day (although I think some other countries in the commonwealth celebrate that). I think people have a healthy respect for the latter, and still tend to enjoy the former. Other holidays like Christmas, Easter etc. tend to be more about commercialism than religion, and Halloween - like another poster said - had little respect at all. I think most people consider holidays a time to just have fun, so there's little respect to be had
Yeah, which is unfortunate. People are forgetting why most holidays exist...I think that people should at least know why it's there...then they can benifit on their own: they can become more socially aware...lol...

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11-26-2009, 11:59 PM

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problem in sweden is that we trying to take some american traditions. dont see the point in it. why have halloween and all saints night on same dayes?. all saints night is for honouring the died.

dont see the point of having halloween in sweden to. o.O
lol...yeah, I think that's a problem too...

Countries should celebrate their own holidays, and not take up others; I believe it only causes contraversy, but it usually doesn't sit well with the rest of the population of that country...lol

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11-27-2009, 12:02 AM

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...especially because Halloween is just for getting candy in the US, Canada, and any other place where people "celebrate" it according to whoever came up with the idea of dressing up and giving out candy on that particular day(what exactly IS there to celebrate?). XD Such is the deviation from it's original purpose, and sadly enough, that's what she's talking about.
Yeah, like I said before, I think people should know why they 'celebrate' what they celebrate...(even if not it's not really considered 'celebrating'...lol XD) They should know what the purpose is behind everything so they can decide if it's their cuppa tea or not. If people 'celebrate' blindly, then that can bring up more problems...lol

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11-27-2009, 03:36 AM

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I totally agree, I think it's rather repulsive that the American government has allowed it's society to be so lax about rememberance and such. It's offensive to me as a family member of a deceased Veteran that people make such a big deal out of shopping when it's time to remember those who gave their life for our country...

Yes, I also find it strange that there's a huge time period for Halloween...I dress up and all, but I find it rediculous to be so elaborate...

I don't think I want to know the calsualty toll this year...

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So you think the government should mandate how people celebrate holidays?

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lol...yeah, I think that's a problem too...

Countries should celebrate their own holidays, and not take up others; I believe it only causes contraversy, but it usually doesn't sit well with the rest of the population of that country...lol

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So as the world becomes a smaller place and the Internet brings us all closer together, we should not be allowed to celebrate festivals we find interesting and exciting if they are not from our specific culture? How do we learn more about the world if we do not celebrate festivals and holidays from other cultures? Should my friends stop doing hanami each year just because we are not Japanese?

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Yeah, like I said before, I think people should know why they 'celebrate' what they celebrate...(even if not it's not really considered 'celebrating'...lol XD) They should know what the purpose is behind everything so they can decide if it's their cuppa tea or not. If people 'celebrate' blindly, then that can bring up more problems...lol

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Can you honestly say you know WHY you celebrate every tradition and holiday you participate in?

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Do any other countries have this same little respect for their holidays? I mean, I know America's bad, but are there any other stories like this one?

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Really? Please elaborate.

Instead of multiple back-to-back posts, try editing your previous one.
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11-27-2009, 04:36 AM

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Yeah, like I said before, I think people should know why they 'celebrate' what they celebrate...(even if not it's not really considered 'celebrating'...lol XD) They should know what the purpose is behind everything so they can decide if it's their cuppa tea or not. If people 'celebrate' blindly, then that can bring up more problems...lol

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While I agree the the emphasis on commercial revenue on holidays is disgusting, I find people wh rant about inaccurate information rather irritating as well. Before YOU chastise people for not understanding their holidays you should make sure you know their history as well.

The date of the legal celebration of Thanksgiving was established on its current date far more than "a few years ago". The bill making it the 4th thrusday of November was signed by FDR in 1942. The official (federal) date has never been changed.

But if you want to discuss insensitivity regarding holidays, try being Native American and seeing this country celebrate the beginning of genocide for your ancestors.


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