The role of the moderators

[MMM]

Originally Posted by JoshAussie

Are you kidding me? You write about the expectation's of forum moderators as if they were Cardinalate, you seem to have (in the word's of the Joker) "some misplaced sense of self-righteousness"... Wait.. I get it now, you think of yourself as Batman (The Dark Knight) and JF is your Gotham City.. right? Therefore, in your mind.. the level of which you hold your status is justified.. your just making Gotham City (Japan Forum) a better place. If you (Batman) weren't here, it would be chaos..

Well in light of this epiphany I think I should thank you, in fact I think we should all thank you.. There should be a Kanji_The_wanderer (Batman) appreciation thread.

..

lol, ridiculous.

Salvanas asked a question and Kanji answered it.

I am not sure where the problem is.

[burkhartdesu]

We don't want people to think that a mod cannot maintain a cool head, and calm appearance.

Like we see each other frequently or something? lol

[WhoIsDaffy]

Originally Posted by Salvanas

Note: I have MMM's approval of this thread, so I am not breaking any rules before people question it.

I 'Assume' MMM is one of the moderators?

The sentence I have quoted shows something very wrong, unfortunatly.
If one needs 'permission' to ask questions, then something is sadly broken, a sure sign or symptom if you will of the classic internet power-trip. (when your actions mirror those of the Chinese gov. your doing something wrong)

Long ago the BBS was born, people had to physically "dial-in" to different boards, among all the hacks, phreaks and 'pirate wares' was an entirely new form of culture. The first ever censor free and legal form of mass and interactive comunication. It was truly a revolution. you can find out more about it here T E X T F I L E S D O T C O M .

There should be no rules, only guidelines.
we live our entire existance under the rule of thumb, forced to abide by rules in order to stay within society.
Thus sometimes it can be fun to impose rules on others, just as in real life you have rules forced upon you.
however I fear if I were to look through the archives of this forum (and most others) I would find many times where Mod's have gone a bit OTT.

When mod's delete and ban in the case of spam or grosly inapropriate content this is justified. However when the ban hammer is weilded because someone does not agree with you, has a differnce of opinion, questions your automatic authority or judgement (shock horror) , or simply states something that offends your own personal point of view. Then this is wrong (not to mention petty), and will lead to a degredation of the forum and the forming of cliques.

but hey what do i know?

i'm just a 'N00b' right?

[Aniki]

Originally Posted by Kanji_The_Wanderer

Please forgive me if you think this post irrelevant, but how many times are we going to debate what it means/doesn't mean to be a mod? Haven't we discussed this over and over again?

A moderator should be someone who follows the rules down to a "T".
They can not complain about the rules, at least, not out in the open. Such a thing would be setting a bad example. We are supposed to be "role models".

The Mods cannot change aspects of the forum as they see fit. That is a community effort. This is not a dictatorship. It is a community network.

A mod should only give positive insight on topics/threads.

Being negative just because you don't agree with something or are mad/upset should be kept to yourself. We don't want people to think that a mod cannot maintain a cool head, and calm appearance.

Any aggravation/discomfort can be expressed, but should be done personally, not publicly.

This post is hilarious.

Kanji, you say this is not dictatorship and mods should follow the rules, but the mods are the ones who make the rules and change them the way they feel like it, talk about no dictatorship huh.

[clintjm]

I think the roles of mods are clearly defined in this video:

YouTube - Cromartie High School - Internet revenge

More (Full):
YouTube - Cromartie High School # 15 OK Computer

[hatsuto11]

Originally Posted by Salvanas

Do you think they should enforce the rules, or bend the rules slightly in different aspects?

And do you think that the mods on this forum are enforcing such things on the forum?

The answer is NO!

[MMM]

Originally Posted by WhoIsDaffy

I 'Assume' MMM is one of the moderators?

The sentence I have quoted shows something very wrong, unfortunatly.
If one needs 'permission' to ask questions, then something is sadly broken, a sure sign or symptom if you will of the classic internet power-trip. (when your actions mirror those of the Chinese gov. your doing something wrong)

Long ago the BBS was born, people had to physically "dial-in" to different boards, among all the hacks, phreaks and 'pirate wares' was an entirely new form of culture. The first ever censor free and legal form of mass and interactive comunication. It was truly a revolution. you can find out more about it here T E X T F I L E S D O T C O M .

There should be no rules, only guidelines.
we live our entire existance under the rule of thumb, forced to abide by rules in order to stay within society.
Thus sometimes it can be fun to impose rules on others, just as in real life you have rules forced upon you.
however I fear if I were to look through the archives of this forum (and most others) I would find many times where Mod's have gone a bit OTT.

When mod's delete and ban in the case of spam or grosly inapropriate content this is justified. However when the ban hammer is weilded because someone does not agree with you, has a differnce of opinion, questions your automatic authority or judgement (shock horror) , or simply states something that offends your own personal point of view. Then this is wrong (not to mention petty), and will lead to a degredation of the forum and the forming of cliques.


but hey what do i know?

i'm just a 'N00b' right?

Sorry you wasted your time with this.

Salvanas asked me what I thought of the question and I told him I thought it was one worth asking. "Permission" is a bit of a stretch of a word. Members never need to ask mods permission before making a new thread.

I removed the link you posted. We don't need links to other forums posted here.

Originally Posted by Aniki

This post is hilarious.

Kanji, you say this is not dictatorship and mods should follow the rules, but the mods are the ones who make the rules and change them the way they feel like it, talk about no dictatorship huh.

Considering there are no active moderators, which is better, mods who keep order or anarchy and chaos?

[darksyndrem]

Originally Posted by clintjm

Current Sticky Rules for J Music:



I think its unreasonable to delete posts because inactivity or even duplicates.
Is there a disk space issue with JF? Is the search engine having issues?

Some enjoy a forum for its entire content of the subject, not the cherry picking of a few.
Some value the complete age of the forum so it may also be used as a reference.

How famous is the artist?
The rules seem a little gray.

I'm sure being a mod here is quite a burden but at the same time I think it really takes away when threads are cherry picked for deletion and the rules are not crystal clear or biast. Some wouldn't spend the time to post if it will possibly be deleted down the road because some just didn't get anything out of it.

I would also think the posting rules and maintenance rules would be similar for all forums on JF, even though each forum has their own mod. But I guess this board is unique for lack of active admin.

Just my opinion.

Are you kidding? Every forum (that I'm aware of) has a bandwidth limit, if JF left inactive threads and duplicates there, JF would fill up the bandwidth and we'd be trash, until we just restarted everything. Those threads have to be deleted, to keep JF organized, clean, and to keep from having our server over encumbered.

It's not cherry picking, it's just getting rid of unnecessary threads.

[Salvanas]

Out of curiosity, is Miyavifan no longer a mod? I can't see her as moderator anymore.

Has she been removed?

[clintjm]

Originally Posted by clintjm

Current Sticky Rules for J Music:



I think its unreasonable to delete posts because inactivity or even duplicates.
Is there a disk space issue with JF? Is the search engine having issues?

Some enjoy a forum for its entire content of the subject, not the cherry picking of a few.
Some value the complete age of the forum so it may also be used as a reference.

How famous is the artist?
The rules seem a little gray.

I'm sure being a mod here is quite a burden but at the same time I think it really takes away when threads are cherry picked for deletion and the rules are not crystal clear or biast. Some wouldn't spend the time to post if it will possibly be deleted down the road because some just didn't get anything out of it.

I would also think the posting rules and maintenance rules would be similar for all forums on JF, even though each forum has their own mod. But I guess this board is unique for lack of active admin.

Just my opinion.

Originally Posted by darksyndrem

Are you kidding? Every forum (that I'm aware of) has a bandwidth limit, if JF left inactive threads and duplicates there, JF would fill up the bandwidth and we'd be trash, until we just restarted everything. Those threads have to be deleted, to keep JF organized, clean, and to keep from having our server over encumbered.

It's not cherry picking, it's just getting rid of unnecessary threads.

No. I'm not kidding.

Is bandwidth really affected by having 2 or more years worth of posts as some forums on JF already do? I'm a little lost on the bandwidth issue / limit you write of. The question to more as "is there a disk space issue"


Sure there are threads that need to be deleted that are off forum topic, but as I wrote, just because the threads are inactive or the subject is duplicated shouldn't void them for deletion as they may contain content valuable to some seeking such information.

I thought the J-music rules were a bit over the top and gray for the reasons in my original post. "How famous is the artists" is cherry picking of one individual post for deletion.

In this case, why even have a search engine if your only going to have 3 weeks of threads.