"She had it coming."

[Salvanas]

Originally Posted by bELyVIS

Why are men "keys" and women "Locks"? You just opened a can of worms with this comment. Good luck to you explaining it.

I've answered the question on the last page.

Sometimes, it's just as it is. Sometimes, women are inferior, and sometimes, men are inferior.

[iPhantom]

Originally Posted by ozkai

My partner dresses like this with very short skirts, but I believe it is very common in Korea. It also allows me for a quick squeeze of her buttocks which I know she enjoys

This guy talks like he's touching a girl's body for the first time.

Anyway, I disagree. Like Salvanas said, if you dress like a slut, you'll get that kind of treatment. Otherwise, why would you want to wear like a slut?

[iPhantom]

Originally Posted by mercedesjin

I'm sorry, I don't think I explained myself well enough in the first point. I gave the example of Muslim culture to show that there are many different stances on how women are supposed to act in the world. I come from a culture where women are expected to cover up their body - not show cleveage, not show off their curves. I know of other cultures where women are allowed to walk outside topless. I know of other cultures where women are expected to cover their faces.

Culture? The culture doesn't oblige you to wear the Muslim way, the religion does. Don't confuse Muslim religion with cultural Muslim. Many Muslims don't wear that way because they are not blinded by religion. Research some more before posting such nonsense.

[IamKira]

I think everyone should stop being so sensitive about their bodies and their sexuality

I see no reason why a woman should be offended by a man acting out in the way nature intended, or vise versa
If a girl came up to me and grabbed my ass I'd probably respond by shoving her up against the nearest solid object and stuffing mt tung down her mouth...
or if she did not meet my very low standards I'd simply ask her to leave me alone.. no harm done...

[thcuteness]

Hmmm i say she didnt and did "have it coming", personally believe that people should be able to dress how ever they want but to a certain extent there should be a limit on how much skin is exposed, esepecially for women, cosidering were just naturally so tempting :/. But if that's the way they wanted to dress so be if something bad does happen to them I dont think the way they are dressed should be blamed. Others should just learn more self control.

[MMM]

Originally Posted by mercedesjin

We say that those teenage girls shouldn't have been dressed that way, but according to who?

I guess I will turn the question around. You are in Japan. Not St. Thomas or the Middle East. So who is saying the girls shouldn't be dressed that way?

Whoever says a woman had a rape coming because of the way she dressed is ignorant. Outfits that attract attention will get attention, but there is never any excuse for physically attacking someone because they are wearing a revealing outfit.

Originally Posted by JayT

Just because you wear short shirts doesn't put you in the same league as women that work in strip clubs.

So women that work in strip clubs deserve to be raped?

Originally Posted by Salvanas

If you, generally speaking, dress like a slut, you'll get treated as a slut.

Simple as. What we wear, represents us, and our personality. If you wear mini-skirts to the point where you can see cheeks, on the street, then you'll be seen as a whore, and people will act like you're a whore.

Yes, they don't deserve to be molested, or raped. But really. I don't see a point dressing like that unless you WANT to have some sort of sexual action.

You can dress provocatively, and still not show skin, and keep your pride. That's different to dressing like a slut.

So yes. They had it coming.

It's fashion, Salvanas. They dress to get attention, to be more fashionable than the girl next to them. The big bleached hair...the garish makeup...the miniskirts. It's all about attention, and even to them it isn't really about sexuality, despite what male eyes see.

So I completely disagree with you here.

[darksyndrem]

Originally Posted by MMM

It's fashion, Salvanas. They dress to get attention, to be more fashionable than the girl next to them. The big bleached hair...the garish makeup...the miniskirts. It's all about attention, and even to them it isn't really about sexuality, despite what male eyes see.

So I completely disagree with you here.

What kind of attention are going to get with a skirt showing half of your ass? Sexual attention, what other kind of attention would that even begin to attract?

[MMM]

Originally Posted by orewasenshi

I'm talking about the men in AMERICA, because it's the main country we seem to be focusing on here.

The majority of men in America are disgusting pigs, they don't usually have the same morals as you were taught, unless they were actually enforced by their own mothers, which I highly doubt.

I thought we were talking about girls in Japan.

And you are a high school girl in the US. So I take your generalizations about MEN in America with a grain of salt.

[MMM]

Originally Posted by darksyndrem

What kind of attention are going to get with a skirt showing half of your ass? Sexual attention, what other kind of attention would that even begin to attract?

Again, you are looking at it from a male perspective. These girls get attention from EVERYONE, male and female, positive and negative. It's about getting a reaction and getting noticed.

Some of them have boyfriends, but that doesn't change the way they dress. Some of them aren't even looking for a boyfriend...imagine just for a moment that it is a clique in a world where men don't even exist. They are "competing" with each other.

Part of that is wearing garish makeup. Why? Because they are told they shouldn't wear garish makeup.

Part of that is bleaching their hair. Why? Because they are told they shouldn't make their hair unnatural colors.

Part of that is tan skin. Why? Because they are told white skin is better than dark skin for Japanese.

Part of that is who can where the shortest skirt. Why? Because at school they are told their skirt must be a certain length.

It's more about breaking the rules than it is about attracting mates.

Remember, it is a different culture from (most of) ours, so remember you are looking at it through the lens of your own culture...glasses you cannot take off.

[JayT]

Originally Posted by orewasenshi

You have to understand that it's not like that here in the USA .____.

If that happened in my town, those people would be shot. It's not really appreciated here.

Yeah, I'm sure it is, but remember, culture differences.

LOL so you're saying people in the 50 states of the united states all think the same way as people in your little town?

Disagreed.

Originally Posted by MMM

So women that work in strip clubs deserve to be raped?

And no, MMM. I was following up on jins statement if 'someone were to touch her' not rape. If a girl works at a strip club and doesn't expect to get touched then she's working in the wrong industry.