"She had it coming."

[TalnSG]

Originally Posted by Salvanas

One thing I want to know, is the thought process going through a woman's mind, as she's getting into her mini skirt, and cleavage showing top.

Ironically, many girls that age (and older women) are actually dressing that way to compete with their peers ..... the other girls. They are more concerned with whether they look sexiest to the rest of their group of friends than the guys who are getting entertained. They are interested in the guys' reactions, but more often that the rest of the girls think they are the sexiest.

[Salvanas]

Originally Posted by TalnSG

Ironically, many girls that age (and older women) are actually dressing that way to compete with their peers ..... the other girls. They are more concerned with whether they look sexiest to the rest of their group of friends than the guys who are getting entertained. They are interested in the guys' reactions, but more often that the rest of the girls think they are the sexiest.

Is that so?

Well, that's an interesting new development in my thoughts. I knew they'd dress up impress other girls. But not to look sexier to them.

[iPhantom]

Originally Posted by TalnSG

Ironically, many girls that age (and older women) are actually dressing that way to compete with their peers ..... the other girls. They are more concerned with whether they look sexiest to the rest of their group of friends than the guys who are getting entertained. They are interested in the guys' reactions, but more often that the rest of the girls think they are the sexiest.

And what is the reason they want to look sexier?

[Ryzorian]

It still doesn't change the fact that people will act as they are brought up. Take away nutureing parents who teach thier children right from wrong and you generally end up with animals who do what ever makes them feel good. That isn't an American condition, that's how mankind has been throughout history.

MMM; I'm not saying all American men are pigs, afterall I would have to include myself. I'm just saying that America has been rather lacking in the parenting/upbringing department the last few decades and American culture is showing the strain. Your free to agree or disagree with my personal asessment as you will, that's ok, it isn't anything to get particularly bent out of shape over.

Now you could make an arugement that "right and wrong" is subjective to various cultures, and that's partly true. However, I would counter that certain things are universally understood as right and wrong/good and evil. Many things considered evil in America are considered evil in Japan, China, India or Africa. In other words, some things trandcend culture.

As to the Japanese girl and her short skirt. It seems to me to be more a case where the individual who witnessed it was offended because thier personal code was different than the girl's, rather than anything the girl did culturally speaking. That may be cultural or personal, I didn't witness it anymore than most the rest of us on the board here, so anything any of us say is subjective anyway yes?

[NanteNa]

Originally Posted by Salvanas

So, women dress to the point of nudity (in cultures such as England and America, for example. Not a culture that accepts nudity.) as a way of feeling confident?

That makes no sense.

As I said beforehand. You can look good, and sexy, and comfortable, without having to show cleavage, both breast and arse. A women that shows such things, obviously knows the effect it has on men, and knowing that, they still wear it.

The majority of school girls over here in the UK seem to have this new game they play with their lives. It's called "Who can have sex first." And usually wear their skirts high to attract older boys.

It's not rare to see a 14 year old girl going out with a 16, or a 16 year old girl going out with a 20 year old. For what reason? Sex is the only reason.

One thing I want to know, is the thought process going through a woman's mind, as she's getting into her mini skirt, and cleavage showing top.

Who said anything about nudity? The skirt this girl in question was wearing, was a part of her school uniform. I don't think she had much of a choice if this was prescribed to the entire school.

Sure it makes sense. I'm talking about girls wearing what fits them. If you're wearing a piece of clothing that makes you feel incredibly uncomfortable, this will often show in your appearance. It's about dressing to make yourself feel good. As stated before, if I had the slim thighs and booty to wear a short-ass skirt, hell nothing could stop me, cause I know it'd look good on me.

Dude, not all females show cleavage or booty for the guys. Boys really need to get over this idea of girls ONLY dressing like this to tease the boys. I personally think it looks good with a cleavage, but that doesn't mean I show a bit for the boys' sake. As much as girls COULD dress up and look hot for the boys, it can just as easily be them confirming that they look good in certain clothing. Nothing boosts your ego like realizing how sexy you actually look in a specific skirt, dress, shirt or w/e. We have girls like you're describing here as well, but I think that's a matter of maturity. NOT ALL females will dress up to get laid - some will. But I don't think that immature 13-14-year-olds can represent the image of an entire gender, just like my opinion doesn't speak for every female individual of the human kind on earth.

Actually, most of the girls I know go for the elder guys because they are more mature. It aint big news that guys' mental maturity is a bit behind compared to the girls'. A guy age 16-17 could very well fit the maturity level of a girl aged 13-14. I cannot speak for the guys, but girls rarely do it for the sex - as we do have other things on our minds when it comes to a functional relationship.

What COULD be going through her mind is 'Woah, I look good in this!'. It doesn't have to be ''Hell yeah, Imma go tease some boys tonight''

Originally Posted by iPhantom

And what is the reason they want to look sexier?

It's an internal competition. Just like male friends could be competing on who has the biggest muscles and the most ripped stomach.

[iPhantom]

Originally Posted by NanteNa

It's an internal competition. Just like male friends could be competing on who has the biggest muscles and the most ripped stomach.

Except that is not the same. Girl internal competition might be showing who's got bigger and better bewbs or better a$$. That would be the correct analogy to the male 'muscles' counterpart.

Guys wear cool to look good on girls. If there were no girls, I'd have no shame wearing the same kind of clothes everyday of my life. lol, this reminds me of that 'Fairy Godparents' episode, when guys get separate from girls and all become dirty and never wash themselves.

[IamKira]

Originally Posted by NanteNa

If you're wearing a piece of clothing that makes you feel incredibly uncomfortable, this will often show in your appearance. It's about dressing to make yourself feel good. As stated before, if I had the slim thighs and booty to wear a short-ass skirt, hell nothing could stop me, cause I know it'd look good on me.

Dude, not all females show cleavage or booty for the guys. Boys really need to get over this idea of girls ONLY dressing like this to tease the boys.

again, most clothes girls wear today, and many guys for that matter are not comfortable in the least, but they wear them anyway.
and again, you'd wear those clothes because they would look good on you.. to who would they look good? people wanting to have sex with you

and yes, you are correct, some girls show booty and cleavage for other girls.. it's called lesbianism ... and no, girls need to get over being hit on by guys when the dress in a manner that will obviously, and i mean obviously attract said guys.

[Salvanas]

Who said anything about nudity? The skirt this girl in question was wearing, was a part of her school uniform. I don't think she had much of a choice if this was prescribed to the entire school.

Sure it makes sense. I'm talking about girls wearing what fits them. If you're wearing a piece of clothing that makes you feel incredibly uncomfortable, this will often show in your appearance. It's about dressing to make yourself feel good. As stated before, if I had the slim thighs and booty to wear a short-ass skirt, hell nothing could stop me, cause I know it'd look good on me.

In the OP, she said that it literally showed their arses. That's almost nudity to me really. And most school outfits require them to be long enough not to look like that.

Dude, not all females show cleavage or booty for the guys. Boys really need to get over this idea of girls ONLY dressing like this to tease the boys. I personally think it looks good with a cleavage, but that doesn't mean I show a bit for the boys' sake. As much as girls COULD dress up and look hot for the boys, it can just as easily be them confirming that they look good in certain clothing. Nothing boosts your ego like realizing how sexy you actually look in a specific skirt, dress, shirt or w/e. We have girls like you're describing here as well, but I think that's a matter of maturity. NOT ALL females will dress up to get laid - some will. But I don't think that immature 13-14-year-olds can represent the image of an entire gender, just like my opinion doesn't speak for every female individual of the human kind on earth.

I'm not speaking about 13-14 year old girls. Come to England, and you'll see what I mean. In London, women wear the skimpiest of clothing, out on the streets, showing huge amounts of cleavage, and most of the arse.

Confidence? Yeh, it can give them confidence. But it still makes them look like a slut, and the chances are, they are one.

Actually, most of the girls I know go for the elder guys because they are more mature. It aint big news that guys' mental maturity is a bit behind compared to the girls'. A guy age 16-17 could very well fit the maturity level of a girl aged 13-14. I cannot speak for the guys, but girls rarely do it for the sex - as we do have other things on our minds when it comes to a functional relationship.

Girls at the age of 13/14 going for full functional relationships?

England isn't like that at all.

and yes, you are correct, some girls show booty and cleavage for other girls.. it's called lesbianism ... and no, girls need to get over being hit on by guys when the dress in a manner that will obviously, and i mean obviously attract said guys.

This. This comment should end this thread. It's the main point.

[IamKira]

and on that girls rarely do it for the sex comment, why aren't there more female - female relationships then?... it would make more sense because females are naturally inclined to think more alike than two separate genders

the ultimate goals of a relationship are increased probability of survival and sex...

[minimin]

I think its rather harsh to say someone asked to be raped, and or murdered whatever you suppose. I think they do want some form of attention though. Its usually how people are. I never wore anything that bearing or showing my arse. Still I went to H.S. with girls who wore jeans with the cuts on them showing the arse, thigh so I saw that everyday and most times Yes they were the ones talking to the guys and handing out there phone number so i see how it can garner attention but i know its not unwanted but i still dont think they'd ask for anything they get that might be harmful.