Japan confirms secret war protocol

[Tenchu]

Originally Posted by masaegu

I don't welcome Daffy back. He gets banned for trash-talking the Japanese culture and a certain Japanese member. And what's the first thing he does when he's back from his way-too-short a ban? The exact same!

Three of my best friends on JF have left here because of the racist war-monger WhoIsDaffy. That's like the majority of the active Japanese members. I'm about to leave here myself. The real world (Japan for me) is far more comfortable.

This is funny.

Weeaboos protecting Japan. Sentimental/misplaced emotions does not change unfortunate realities that Daffy has a like for highlighting.

Most of what Daffy has said is true.

[termogard]

Originally Posted by WhoIsDaffy

(as Japan refuses to Apologise for WW2 war crimes

Perhaps, someone should also Apologise for brutal nuclear bombings of two Japanese cities?

[MMM]

Originally Posted by Tenchu

This is funny.

Weeaboos protecting Japan. Sentimental/misplaced emotions does not change unfortunate realities that Daffy has a like for highlighting.

Most of what Daffy has said is true.

Tenchu, enough.

You are just trying to incite a war that needs to stop. Please don't force me to take actions that none of us want to happen.

Personal attacks will not be tolerated (and calling a Japanese native a Weeaboo doesn't even make sense).

This part of the conversation ends here. Playing babysitter to grown men gets old fast.

[MMM]

Regarding Japan's "refusal" to apologize for actions taken during WWII:

I am counting 47 attempts at apologies for actions taken during world WWII, but maybe the number is closer to zero.

Japan Addresses Its War Responsibility

List of war apology statements issued by Japan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[Tenchu]

Originally Posted by MMM

Tenchu, enough.

You are just trying to incite a war that needs to stop. Please don't force me to take actions that none of us want to happen.

Personal attacks will not be tolerated (and calling a Japanese native a Weeaboo doesn't even make sense).

This part of the conversation ends here. Playing babysitter to grown men gets old fast.

A Japanese native? Surprised.

I don't see the point, MMM. I welcomed someone back to the forum, and someone I don't even know tells me two trolls are friends. I'm to blame, of course. I didn't try to start anything, someone else did.

As for the word "weeaboo", where do you think I learnt such a word? I only heard it the first time yesterday, actually, so you might want to rethink that.

Saying negative things about Japanese culture is not culture bashing. Everything Daffy has said is actually a perspective based on real things. It isn't my fault if some people get sensative about it. It does not mean they should call me a troll, either.

[komitsuki]

Originally Posted by Ryzorian

The US was bascially the main power standing after WW2 and got stuck putting everything back together. It's everyone's "Mama/uncle/big daddy" because we got tired of putting everything back together every 20 years. WW1 was a disaster too. We didn't get involved at the end of that one and look what happened.

America is a control freak. A very bad one.

Now yes, I suppose we could pull out of all the bases we are at everywhere,

Right you are.

and stop feeding all those countries that rely on our food

As of 2005, USA imports more food than export. America slowly destroyed the agricultural industry for 50 years. Not a surprise.

and stop shipping aid to those countries that have natural disasters.

And stop making wars and feeding mercenary companies like Xe (Blackwater). At least America could support its own natural diasters. Poor aid during the very brutal Hurricane Katrina disaster few years ago isn't the best part of modern American history.

Since we use alot of those bases as operational platforms for that sort of thing.

And intimidating many Asian countries.

It's still not likely going to change many minds about those bases. The US tends to keep anything it gets a hold of, specially if it paid for it in blood.

This kind of attitude is the problem. The "Si vis pacem para bellum" attitude is what kills America right now.

The added irony here is that if war did break out between Japan and North Korea, Japan would have the US on their side.

The greatest irony is that Americans keep thinking North Korea will create a "full-front military" war of missiles and troops landing, when we are seeing less signs of a possible war. The American public thinking is way too violent.

[MMM]

Originally Posted by Tenchu

A Japanese native? Surprised.

I don't see the point, MMM. I welcomed someone back to the forum, and someone I don't even know tells me two trolls are friends. I'm to blame, of course. I didn't try to start anything, someone else did.

As for the word "weeaboo", where do you think I learnt such a word? I only heard it the first time yesterday, actually, so you might want to rethink that.

Saying negative things about Japanese culture is not culture bashing. Everything Daffy has said is actually a perspective based on real things. It isn't my fault if some people get sensative about it. It does not mean they should call me a troll, either.

I am saying it ends here.

And you should be careful about using words you learned yesterday.

[komitsuki]

Originally Posted by MMM

Regarding Japan's "refusal" to apologize for actions taken during WWII:

I am counting 47 attempts at apologies for actions taken during world WWII, but maybe the number is closer to zero.

Every time Japanese politicians paying homage to the Yasukuni Jinja, the apology automatically nullifies.

There is a solid good reason why China, Taiwan, Korea, and Vietnam like Hatoyama: he is trying to prevent this from happening.

[MMM]

Originally Posted by komitsuki

Every time Japanese politicians paying homage to the Yasukuni Jinja, the apology automatically nullifies.

There is a solid good reason why China, Taiwan, Korea, and Vietnam like Hatoyama: he is trying to prevent this from happening.

That's a political decision on your part, and not something based on fact. The vast vast majority of the millions of Japanese soldiers enshrined there were not involved in war crimes. It is a little like telling the American president he cannot give a speech on Memorial Day, as some of the soldiers he is memorializing did commit crimes against humanity.

There is deciding to never move on, or there is moving forward. The past needs to be remembered, but picked-at scabs never heal.

[Tenchu]

Originally Posted by MMM

I am saying it ends here.

And you should be careful about using words you learned yesterday.

Why? Were you in a bad mood yesterday?

You can't say it ends here, MMM, to a "grown man". You want to tell me I should grow up and behave a bit better, then you order me around like you're my mother?

I'm not trolling anyone. I just want to point out a very simple, personal view that is not an attack on anyone: almost every time someone says something negative about Japanese culture, they're told they should just accept it, it isn't so bad, or they've more to understand, they don't get the full picture.

This isn't true. The fact is, different people have different perspectives on individual things. If something is having a negative, exclusive or detrimental effect on someone, it should be paid attention to. Within reason, of course; I'm not asking everyone to cater for emotional fragilities of others. People can think and disthink what they like. All I'm saying is, just because you think so, it does not make you right.

A lot of people here like to pretend Asian cultures have little to learn, and the West is usually the one with the catching up to do as far as understanding the foreign world is concerned. I find it's the exact other way around. Japan has a lot of serious problems when it comes to dealing with the outside world when cultures collide. Japanese people do not notice it, of course, as they're conditioned culturally to be a certain way. Most people think because the Japanese are conditioned this way, it means the goal of cultural understanding is to tolerate these flaws (as Westerners would put it). There is no sense in this.

You can call me and Daffy trolls if you want, MMM, but the fact is, we, and a massive portion of the Western world, have got a long history in dealing with other cultures and tolerance. The idea that, in any way, Japan is beyond us in dealing with ethnic proprieties is a serious misinterpretation of the proper usage of cultural tolerance/acceptance.

The majority of Japanese people could not possibly have any idea of how to deal with the foreign world, as they've never dealt with them. People like you sweeping staunch critics like myself under the carpet every time we open our mouth is not going to help educate these people.

You may or may not agree with our perspective/impression. It's up to you. But when it's based on facts, it should be respected and acknowledged.