Japanese whaler ship rams conservationist boat

[allhailhata]

thank you Ryzorian.
I have not seen Star Trek 4 .but I know about sentient being theory and John C. Lilly.Of course I know scientists don't support the theory.

There are so many movies in which animals are not only sentient but can speak

If SS persist , there will never be a compromise. There is no possibility japan stop whaling because whales are sentient beings.

Next question

1 How about Australia govt ?

(1)I heard that officially NO country is against whaling based on sentient being theory.

Australia govt support the theory?

(2) I know whaling is prohibited by domestic law in AUS.

Why they prohibit it ? I want to know substantial reason.
I don't need guess,but accurate Legislative reasons

(3) I know Australia govt against　especially Research Program in the Antarctic by Japan and their Territorial claims of Antarctica with ＥＥＺ .

If japan stop whaling in the Antarctic and start whaling in japan's ＥＥＺ,
AUS never be against whaling?

(4) Australia govt really believe they can win the case in International Court of Justice?
If they lose,they say "OK,sorry we were wrong,please hunt whale" ?

(5) If they lose,they allow SS to use facilities in Aus and support them?
(I don't think SS obey the decision by International Court,they will just say,
International Court of Justice is a idiot,cruel,barbaric and we are justice,so attack the whalers, because they are doing illegal!)

2 How about ordinary　person ?

(1) same as 1(1). about the theory

(2)　No　need　to answer

(3) same as 1(3).　about whaling in japan's ＥＥＺ

(4) same as 1(4) .　about　how to accept the defeat

(5) same as 1(5). about how to deal with SS in the situation

3　about movies and TV programs against Taiji　

In taiji town,japan,they are hunting pilot whale and Bottlenose Dolphin
IWC doesn't prohibit commercial whaling of huntingpilot whale and Bottlenose Dolphin.Taiji is ,of course,japan's territory.
SO,different from whaling in the Antarctic,100% legal.there is no room for discussion about legality.

very short Summary,not so accurate.
go to taiji,a quarrel,harassment(try to save), failure,killed,blood,cry,leave taiji,cry again.

(1)If you saw [The Cove] or TV　program in which Actress Hayden Panettiere appears,what do you think about it?

(2)What do you think about behavior of Broome, Western Australia after [The Cove] was aired?

(3)Do you think are movies like this useful to stop whaling ?

sorry for long post.
I don't like some japanese say 'this is racism! We must continue!',although anti whaling was used as a device of Japan bashing in past.
so,please answer these questions! I want to tell them 'NO,this is not racism,they think like this・・・’

thank you,IN ADVANCE　

[allhailhata]

Originally Posted by MMM

I am curious about the term "hunting to the point of extinction". I don't think anyone, Japanese or not, would endorse hunting any species to the point of extinction.

MMMsan aratammemaste.

I agree with you.

I wanted to confirm that hunting to the point of extinction is never allowed
Japanese whalers don't endorse hunting any species to the point of extinction too.

but,It seems like that not so few antiwhalers,especially forigners, offen say that japanese do hunting near to the point of extinction, japanese is barbalick.
This is misunderstanding.
as I had expected, Barone1551 referred to extinction.
I just wanted the word for next question.If there was no risk of extinction ,whaling will be allowed?

[MMM]

Originally Posted by allhailhata

MMMさん　、はじめまして。えいごにつかれたので、にほ んごでかきます。ごめんなさい。にほんごが、もし、わ からないようでしたら、ほかのかたにやくしてもらって ください。

This is as far as I read. I am an American living in the USA, so please feel free to address me in English.

[xyzone]

I'll be honest with you. I think people who just care about protecting cute animals are phonies. I don't give a darn about the whales for the sake of whales. They just happen to be an important piece in a large ocean ecosystem, and making them extinct will make bad things happen to it. If you don't care, read up on the food chain and ecosystems. I'm sure fish eaters would care if fish stop showing up. Of course by then, who cares about rubbing it in. Then again, maybe they'll take my advice and form some pseudo-science to say it's not that bad, or something. Better than ramming ships (or is it?).

[allhailhata]

I was too excited.

[Tturtle]

Originally Posted by Salvanas

Yes, and you will untie under banners that fly the colours of white and green, the colours of justice and nature! And you will stand, with the picture of a whale, proudly stitched onto your breast, as you stare down those vile, evil hunters, will you not?! What a proud day that will be for you.

It will be a sad day for humanity, when murders are made over the killings of some animals.

An animals life should never be put before a humans life.

No. An animal's life (as in single) should not be put over a human's life in my opinion. I understand that there is some debate over whether or not these whales are becoming extinct. But any time some people do not care about the extinction of a species of animal simply for selfish reasons then they are wrong. I don't have problem with eating animals for food. I do have a problem with people being inhumane and/or wiping out a species for no good (in my opinion) reason as do many other persons. And I believe that in the future persons with my thinking will be the majority. I'm not a tree hugger. But some might say I am because if someone cut down all the redwoods to sell for funiture or firewood I would hope that a tree would fall on that person and crush them.

[Ryzorian]

Allhailhata; Honestly, I cant say about Australia, I live in Iowa. Hell, I don't even understand why Californians do what they do half the time.

It's probably as much cultural difference as anything, people get offeneded by things different from what they know/expect. Such things like whaleing or eating cats, or what have you can make people of a different culture where that sort of thing is taboo, uncomfortable. I'm sure the same goes for how a Japanese visitor to the US would feel, when confronted with certain aspects of American culture that they are unprepared for.

[allhailhata]

Originally Posted by Ryzorian

It's probably as much cultural difference as anything, people get offeneded by things different from what they know/expect. Such things like whaleing or eating cats, or what have you can make people of a different culture where that sort of thing is taboo, uncomfortable. I'm sure the same goes for how a Japanese visitor to the US would feel, when confronted with certain aspects of American culture that they are unprepared for.

So,I'm curious about background of an antiwhaling Culture(?).
Killing whale was not a taboo.So I'm curious about the reason of change.

I picked up Australian,because they seem most eager to stopwhaling,and SS expects Aus Gov to take an action.
but , I'm curious about not Australian people's point of view too.So please tell me and answer the questions I asked before.

[fatalbert130]

I read a document written about IWC the other day.

It was written there that a standard of IWC was vague for permission of the whaling.

The whaling of the commercial use prohibits it in IWC.

However, I seem to sell the souvenir which I made with the bone of the whale at the stand of the airport of Anchorage.

In addition, there seems to be the approved country though I am past, and the history of the whaling is short when "the whaling is tradition".

The headquarters of Seashepard are U.S.A.
U.S.A. whales as well as Japan, too.

Seashepard should do the same interference on an American whaler.

Then why will they interfere with a Japanese ship?

The reason is simple.
The Japanese ship is because I do not have a gun.

YouTube - Hypocrisy: People profiting from the whaling problem

[fluffy0000]

In the United States, whaling is carried out by Alaska natives from nine different communities in Alaska. The hunt takes around 50 bowhead whales a year from a population of about 10,500 in Alaskan waters.
Japanese Whaler vessels are armed with explosives that have in the past 'accidently' killed a japanese citizen. The Sea Shepherd vessels are unarmed.