New Law in the U.S. State: Arizona

[nobora]

Originally Posted by MMM

I like that Steve Nash and the Phoenix Suns b-ball team are, too.

NBA notes: 'Los Suns' take a stand
NBA notes » Phoenix will wear special jerseys in response to 'misguided' immigration law.
The Associated Press

The Phoenix Suns will wear "Los Suns" on their jerseys in Game 2 of the Western Conference semifinals tonight, owner Robert Sarver said, "to honor our Latino community and the diversity of our league, the state of Arizona, and our nation."
The decision to wear the jerseys on the Cinco de Mayo holiday stems from a law passed by the Arizona Legislature and signed by Gov. Jan Brewer that has drawn widespread criticism from Latino organizations and civil rights groups that say it could lead to racial profiling of Hispanics. President Barack Obama has called the law "misguided."
The measure makes it a crime under state law to be in the country illegally, and it directs local police to question people about their immigration status and demand to see their documents if there is reason to suspect they are illegal.
Sarver came up with the "Los Suns" jersey idea but left it up to the players for the final decision, Suns guard Steve Nash said, and all of them were for it.
"I think it's fantastic," Nash said after Tuesday's practice. "I think the law is very misguided. I think it's, unfortunately, to the detriment of our society and our civil liberties. I think it's very important for us to stand up for things we believe in. As a team and as an organization, we have a lot of love and support for all of our fans. The league is very multicultural. We have players from all over the world, and our Latino community here is very strong and important to us."

That is awesome~! It makes me a bit happier bout this situation.

[clintjm]

The good news keeps coming:

FOXNews.com - California Students Sent Home for Wearing U.S. Flags on Cinco de Mayo

[MMM]

Originally Posted by clintjm

The good news keeps coming:

FOXNews.com - California Students Sent Home for Wearing U.S. Flags on Cinco de Mayo

It's too bad no one took the time to teach those kids proper respect for the American flag.

United States Code: Title 4,8. Respect for flag | LII / Legal Information Institute

[samurai007]

Originally Posted by MMM

Actually employed illegal workers do pay taxes and do pay Social Security. It all comes out of their paychecks. Remember, no one is going after the employers who hire them, unless they don't pay their taxes on the workers they employ-legal or not.

The vast majority of those undocumented workers who cross the border illegally are not trying to regain anything other than money. Why has the number increased so greatly? Because NAFTA flooded Mexico with cheap products from China, and industry and agriculture was largely destroyed in Mexico. Walmart is the largest retailer in Mexico.

You are right, they are not coming to be citizens, but they are coming to feed their families.

So you can call them criminals and dehumanize them if you like, but they are not an invading army, they are victims of a destroyed economy and are trying to find something better.

If the shoe was on the other foot, what would you do?

They don't pay their full amount... they all know to claim "Married" and 8 or 9 Dependents, which reduces withholding to a very minimal amount, and then they don't file taxes to pay the remaining amount or prove that they really have that many dependents. If/when the govt starts coming after them for not filing, they change IDs again. I've seen this many times.

[MMM]

Originally Posted by samurai007

They don't pay their full amount... they all know to claim "Married" and 8 or 9 Dependents, which reduces withholding to a very minimal amount, and then they don't file taxes to pay the remaining amount or prove that they really have that many dependents. If/when the govt starts coming after them for not filing, they change IDs again. I've seen this many times.

To say they don't pay taxes is baloney. Yes, they do not file tax returns, but that is different than "not paying taxes".

Why doesn't the government come after those that employ them? That would be much easier than going after the the individual illegal employee.

[tripleee]

this law is misguided although they are trying to go through the guise of upholding the law they are actually directing thier anger and hate on those less capable of defending themselves let let arizona play their childish games and lets boycott anything accociated with arizona lets pull out of arizona and lets show them what makes their state run the world should come to a realization that the only way to make things run smoothly is by cooperation lets learn to work hand in hand and quit this senseless bickering everybody grow up and see what the future has in store gor everyone if such decisions are taken which side will you choose

[tripleee]

Originally Posted by MMM

To say they don't pay taxes is baloney. Yes, they do not file tax returns, but that is different than "not paying taxes".

Why doesn't the government come after those that employ them? That would be much easier than going after the the individual illegal employee.

if the employer lets them change their info then the employer should be held acountable but most employees pay their taxes for the sole reason of not wanting the spot light on them if you eliminate these employees then you will reduce the tax intake so dont shoot yourself in the foot have a reform and have them pay fines keep them eplyed and the country will gain finacially by the fines

[tripleee]

finaaly someone who hit the right button proper display of the colors

[SSJup81]

Originally Posted by MMM

To say they don't pay taxes is baloney. Yes, they do not file tax returns, but that is different than "not paying taxes".

Why doesn't the government come after those that employ them? That would be much easier than going after the the individual illegal employee.

I agree with this entirely, and don't understand why others don't seem to complain about it. Illegal immigrants wouldn't be working in the country if people didn't hire them in the first place. To me, it's like tossing the drug addict in jail as opposed to the actual dealer.

IMO, we need something like a temporary work visa type situation since, as some said, some people don't come here for a citizenship, some come here in search of work to help their families. Maybe if the US could issue some kind of visa for that specifically, maybe the problems with illegal immigration would lessen.

[clintjm]

Originally Posted by MMM

It's too bad no one took the time to teach those kids proper respect for the American flag.

United States Code: Title 4,8. Respect for flag | LII / Legal Information Institute

Your right, the Mexican kids shunning and complaining that the kids wearing something with the American flag on it, in America, should be taught proper respect.

No, the kids weren't wearing an actual flag. That would be disrepecting the flag.
Please read the actual article. Your link is irrelevant. That would keep the president from wearing a American flag pin etc.

It is a sad day when we can't display the flag in America.

Even more surprising the were kicked off campus and asked for an apology.

There you go MMM, your favorite source for news:
Students Kicked Off Campus for Wearing American Flag Tees - NBCBAYAREA- msnbc.com

Notice the reason wasn't for improper display of the red, white and blue.