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08-13-2010, 05:07 PM
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There are so many horror stories from the war. We can only move on by learning it instead of hating it. Nobody deserves to die but sometimes, we get caught in the midst of things that we have absolutely no control over. If Japan never attacked China, atomic bomb would never have dropped. it's a shame those people suffered, but at the same time, there's a reason why the atom bomb was dropped. 凱麗黃珍森 
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08-13-2010, 05:14 PM
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As late as May 1945, the U.S. was engaged in heavy fighting with the Japanese at Iwo Jima and Okinawa. In these most bloody conflicts, the United States had sustained more than 75,000 casualties. Thus, President Harry Truman had many alternatives at his disposal for ending the war: invade the Japanese mainland or save lifes of Americans from full scale war invasion. Europe eventually swayed United States Pacific theater military leaders to authorize bombing of Japanese mainland cities. Tokyo, Nagoya, Osaka, and Kobe all were decimated by incendiary and other bombs. In all, hundreds of thousands of civilians were killed in these air strikes meant to deter the resolve of the Japanese people. Yet, Japanese resolve stayed strong and the idea of a bloody "house to house" invasion of the Japanese mainland would produce thousands more American and Allied casualties. The Allies in late July 1945 declared at Potsdam that the Japanese must unconditionally surrender. After Japanese leaders flatly rejected the Potsdam Declaration, President Truman authorized use of the atomic bomb anytime after August 3, 1945. On the clear morning of August 6, the first atomic bomb, nicknamed Little Boy, was dropped on the city of Hiroshima. Leveling over 60 percent of the city, 70,000 residents died instantaneously in a searing flash of heat. Three days later, on August 9, a second bomb, Fat Man, was dropped on Nagasaki. It is clear the bomb was dropped to END the war as quickly as possible to save the lives of Allied soldiers. Quote:
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08-14-2010, 05:53 AM
*sigh*... Im not going to repeat myself again.
Please refer yourself to the previous link I gave earlier in the thread if you want to get a better insight into my position. Okinawa and Iwo Jima were defended vigourously because the US invaded them. Japan was looking for a way out. Your American revisionist history is not completely wrong... but it omits a lot of facts about the Japanese and creates a false narrative. The only other point I will address is that the firebombings didnt leave radiation and fallout which lasted decades later, killing hundreds and thousands of people AFTER the war ended.
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08-14-2010, 06:02 AM
Im not going to get into a debate about US power and the limits of its ability to project itself. Im just going to say that you are only focusing on hard power. As I said before... I dont dispute that the US is the strongest military force on the planet.
As for your economics argument. The US has the worlds largest economy yes. But the reason why it is so large is because it is a complex web that spans the world. It is not an isolated economy. You go around beating your Pax Americana drum then you undermine that economy severely. Mostly because you will be bombing the very countries whom your economy relies upon (Saudi Arabia for example whose citizens not only make up the majority of the hijackers in 911... but whom actively promote Wahabism, a fundamentalist Islamic ideology, but one of the main countries America relies upon for its Oil addiction) I will address this though. Quote:
read it and learn. PS- Einstein isnt mentioned in this article. The fact Einstein was heavily involved can be found in a documentary called "The Truth Game" which was made by well known investigative journalist John Pilger.
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08-14-2010, 02:06 PM
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The fact that the Americans still use it as a base Now ostensibly to protect Japan? haven't read about iwo jima so need to learn more about that. from what I have read, the war had not ended before the A bombs were dropped. Surely there was still heavy fighting on the ground. plus terrible conditions for POW's.
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08-15-2010, 09:57 PM
this was in Japan today. I Thought it might be of interest.
Historians rethink key Soviet role in Japan's defeat in WWII
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08-16-2010, 02:05 AM
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I have nothing to say about Iwo Jima or Okinawa so I dont know why you quoted me. And I notice that you keep repeating yourself like a broken record. Ive already acknowledged and argued against the points you have made.
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08-16-2010, 08:47 AM
Let's stay on topic and not reduce ourselves to personal attacks, gents.
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