Guy who wants to burn the Quran on Sept. 11

[Qayin]

This means he blame about 9/11 to all muslim in the world. That quite sucks. It likes umm...... when someone drive Hummer hit your grandma, then you blame all Hummer's drivers in the world.

Is it fair if you hate Hitler you got to hate all German?
Is it fair that you hate communism you got to hate all Russian?

That's nonsense.

One more thing. If he burn Quran, he got to avoid any contact with any of the Muslim because he will be beaten to death for sure!

[RobinMask]

Originally Posted by Qayin

One more thing. If he burn Quran, he got to avoid any contact with any of the Muslim because he will be beaten to death for sure!

To be honest I can honestly see that hapenning. . . not necessarily by any specific religious group, but someone is bound to do some damage to him or the church. It's rather worrying. He's putting himself, his congretation, and the troops on the front line in danger (due to reasons another poster listed). It's just incredibly dangerous behaviour, and very hypocritical of him. He's angry at a group for causing the deaths of many, when potentially he could be doing the same.

[Qayin]

I got your point Robinmask. If he burn the book, then what will happen. At least strike at American embassies around the world will occur for sure. And that is just THE LEAST dangerous one. You can guess the more dangerous one right?

[x2cool]

You know, what I really hate most about this guy is that now people in the middle east are rallying and yelling out "Death to Americans" because of him and his congregation, people see Americans as bigots. This waney happening before right? I wonder if it's because of the mosque that people don't want built near ground zero?

[Aniki]

I hope he gets killed. The world will be a better place without him.

[steamboatsam]

Originally Posted by MMM

This issue has nothing to do with government. Rev. Terry Jones lost 30 members of his already tiny congregation because of this issue. He literally only has influence on a few dozen bigots. He has no influence on government.

I'm sure that is how the catholic church thought about people like Martin Luther, and now we have the protestant church and all the branches that come from it. its like a rock slide, it only takes one small pebble to start it. It is quite possible that though we see him as a nutjob, others may see him as a man who they should follow. With the loss of his 30, he may gain hundreds, and that may lead to thousands and quite possibly millions, but then thats on pure slight possibility and speculation. I hope it doesn't happen, but from what I'm seeing, it seems like it could happen.

What I was saying about the government issue is that its getting to where religion is strongly influencing Federal decisions, not that he is trying to control it.

[MMM]

Originally Posted by steamboatsam

I'm sure that is how the catholic church thought about people like Martin Luther, and now we have the protestant church and all the branches that come from it. its like a rock slide, it only takes one small pebble to start it. It is quite possible that though we see him as a nutjob, others may see him as a man who they should follow. With the loss of his 30, he may gain hundreds, and that may lead to thousands and quite possibly millions, but then thats on pure slight possibility and speculation. I hope it doesn't happen, but from what I'm seeing, it seems like it could happen.

What I was saying about the government issue is that its getting to where religion is strongly influencing Federal decisions, not that he is trying to control it.

I don't see religion having any more influence on the American government today than it did 10, 20, 30 years ago, or even from the foundations of America's birth.

[kyo_9]

huhu.. this just prove the fact that every religion has an extremist..

[steamboatsam]

Originally Posted by MMM

I don't see religion having any more influence on the American government today than it did 10, 20, 30 years ago, or even from the foundations of America's birth.

Since when, before Obama, did the American populas ever question a President's religion? Granted that it was probably a ploy by the republicans to try to give Obama a bad start as president, but why did choose relgion? Religion should not influence the government, instead the government should influence how the religion is practiced. Was that not the reason America was first established for, to give a person the right to practice a religion as long as it abided by the law? Now days, christians are putting stress on the government to stop the center in New York City, muslims citizens are said to not be as strictly enforced by the law because of their possible connection to people in the middle east. It might not seem like to you that nothing has changed, but it does to me.

[MMM]

Originally Posted by steamboatsam

Since when, before Obama, did the American populas ever question a President's religion? Granted that it was probably a ploy by the republicans to try to give Obama a bad start as president, but why did choose relgion? Religion should not influence the government, instead the government should influence how the religion is practiced. Was that not the reason America was first established for, to give a person the right to practice a religion as long as it abided by the law? Now days, christians are putting stress on the government to stop the center in New York City, muslims citizens are said to not be as strictly enforced by the law because of their possible connection to people in the middle east. It might not seem like to you that nothing has changed, but it does to me.

The religious practices of the US president is always under scrutiny. You are right, Obama, a practicing Christian, has been labeled a Muslim so many times by right wing extremists so often that 40% of Americans actually think he is a Muslim. That being the case, he still got elected.

Religion should influence the government as much as the government should influence religion.

People are trying to influence the government to not open the Islamic Cultural Center in Manhattan. How much influence did they have? The City Council of New York voted unanimously to allow to happen. The mayor of New York declared it should be built.

I would like to hear more about how Muslims are not being held to laws as strictly.