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09-08-2010, 10:23 PM

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You know that Fox is known for making news without actually checking for facts?
That's an interesting point you made. How did you come to this conclusion, exactly. Do you know first-hand or did an "honest" source reveal it to you.

It's a shame, the way I see it, most, if not all, mainstream news sources are politically biased, selective in their sharing of information, and prone to making assumptions without thorough investigation. FOX and CNN are no exception, regardless of what is believed their varying degree of guilt may be -- though the respective sides would generally disagree, respectively. However, it's absurd to claim that all stories presented from either program are false for this reason. Information is information, and it usually doesn't come completely refined when conveyed through another party. Personal methods should be taken to determine the quality of information. To immediately label any body of information as particularly poor from a source similar to others solely because of the name that represents it... doesn't seem wise. But that's my opinion.

I won't continue. I've digressed enough.

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The wife lived, the daughters were the ones killed, and I see where your getting at. However, what your saying makes it sound like that just because FOX news did a report on it we shouldn't believe it. What if I said it was from CNN? Every news group has its bad suites, but does that mean we should disregard every report they make?
FOX News is good at taking a story, or a non-story, and twisting it.

Here's how they do it:

Man is Muslim
Man kills family
Man flees country before he is apprehended
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That's where the story should end, but then they ask the question:

Could it be that government officials allowed this man to escape apprehension simply because they didn't want to stir up trouble with the Muslim community?!?

There is as much reason to pose this question as there is to ask whether his escape was assisted by UFOs. But what they do is plant a seed in the heads of the viewers, and then feed it and feed it and fertilize it until 40% of the country thinks the president is a Muslim.

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Does that not mean a person can't check to see if its real?

Texas – Honor killing of AMINA and SARAH – chilling

American Girls - Page 1 - News - Dallas - Dallas Observer

Here are some random links that talks about it (that is not FOX)

I understand that FOX has a bad reputation for that(hench why I said it might not be reliable), but then again how can you tell that other major news groups do the same thing? Do you check every single news reports from CNN just to make sure that they are 100% real?
Your first alternate source uses FOX News as it's source. Notice how the blogger describes a 9-1-1 call as a 9-11 call.

Your second sources is a very long article, but no where in the article does it mention that the government assisted or allowed the father's escape. That's the FOX News "twist".

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09-08-2010, 11:00 PM

Another thing about FOX that we can't forget is back during the Bush v.s Gore election. They hadn't even finished counting all the ballots and then here comes fox saying that bush was the winner. That then led to othe news agencies reporting the same thing. And more recently with the thing about Sheryl Sherrod, The first place to call her a racist was fox. And they made that assumption on a video that was a few minutes long that was taken from a long speech. And Bill O'Reilly is way too biased.
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09-08-2010, 11:07 PM

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That's where the story should end, but then they ask the question:

Could it be that government officials allowed this man to escape apprehension simply because they didn't want to stir up trouble with the Muslim community?!?
I'm sorry, but isn't that a news group's job?

I placed the those links just to show that FOX was not the only news group that covered it. Plus I RANDOMLY picked them. It was to prove a point that all the stuff that FOX reports and just something made up completly (like some people strongly believe and appear to be stating). Every major news group does it, its just FOX seems to have a worse reputation about it than others. Why do the news groups do it? because it brings ratings. Thats probably why this Rev. is getting so much news media. It brings their ratings up.

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09-08-2010, 11:14 PM

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Does that not mean a person can't check to see if its real?
I understand that FOX has a bad reputation for that(hench why I said it might not be reliable), but then again how can you tell that other major news groups do the same thing? Do you check every single news reports from CNN just to make sure that they are 100% real?
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That's an interesting point you made. How did you come to this conclusion, exactly. Do you know first-hand or did an "honest" source reveal it to you.
I took the liberty to shorten the quotes so I didn't spam too much.
My statement was a reply to steamboat as he defended Fox News by refering to CNN and other news groups hence I did not mean that every single news Fox makes is without checking for facts, with that said if you find out that they have made some news that hasn't been checked would it be wise to continue watching Fox News? even if one didn't know that but knows that they are stretching it and/or opinions are heavily biased why would you continue watch it?

If I get the time I'll try surf the net for you and dig it up but I remember one that should be in youtube which I found a little funny as lot of gamers rage over it... their news covering over mass effect game which they ended up retracting.


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09-08-2010, 11:35 PM

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I'm sorry, but isn't that a news group's job?

I placed the those links just to show that FOX was not the only news group that covered it. Plus I RANDOMLY picked them. It was to prove a point that all the stuff that FOX reports and just something made up completly (like some people strongly believe and appear to be stating). Every major news group does it, its just FOX seems to have a worse reputation about it than others. Why do the news groups do it? because it brings ratings. Thats probably why this Rev. is getting so much news media. It brings their ratings up.

It's sad too say that it's true,ratings are all some people care about. Why can't they focus on getting the truth out rather than try to promote their own agenda.
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09-09-2010, 12:19 AM

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I'm sorry, but isn't that a news group's job?
Absolutely not!

That's called yellow journalism, and goes against the pillars of those who study journalism and call themselves reporters or journalists.

The idea that the government would be involved in this man's flee out of the country was introduced by FOX News. No one told them that. Read your second source...a 9 page article from a Dallas newspaper. In 9 pages not once did they bring up the idea of him getting help from anyone when he fled the country right after committing the crime.

So what started as a story about an Egyptian man killing his daughters for dating American boys has been twisted into an anti-government story. Is that what you call news?

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I placed the those links just to show that FOX was not the only news group that covered it. Plus I RANDOMLY picked them. It was to prove a point that all the stuff that FOX reports and just something made up completly (like some people strongly believe and appear to be stating). Every major news group does it, its just FOX seems to have a worse reputation about it than others. Why do the news groups do it? because it brings ratings. Thats probably why this Rev. is getting so much news media. It brings their ratings up.
No, not every news group does it like FOX News does it. It is probably the "news outlet" with the worst reputation because they are so brazenly skewed and wear that on their sleeve. Their twist is they tell their viewers that all the other news outlets are a part of the "liberal media" and so their right-wing take on the news is actual the middle. It's a good business strategy, but isn't good journalism.
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09-09-2010, 06:27 AM

FOX news is a joke.

Here is a documentary on the organization called "Outfoxed"

OUTFOXED : Rupert Murdoch's War on Journalism

Also one of the biggest lies that I will never forget was a lie told by FOX news.

Remember the whole "Obama was raised in an extremist Islamic style school in Indonesia!" incident?

The Bush V Gore election result was bogus too as mentioned earlier
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09-09-2010, 06:51 AM

I remember watching OUTFOXED back in my high school economics class. I'm glad I watched it cause it really helped me to see what fox was really about. Although I prefere to watch CNN, they just seem more honest and they actually try to get all of the sides of a story.
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09-09-2010, 07:25 AM

Wow, so it means we shouldn't watch FOX?

Just kidding.

But I hope this man die or be taken to custody before he bring the WWIII.

Small thing make bigger thing happen. WWI happened because a Serbian student killed Austrian prince. I'm afraid that this small idiotic man will bring chaos to the world
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