Does the Yakuza allow forgieners to join?

[evanny]

Originally Posted by yuujirou

Alas, an office job has become a 'respectable' position in this society~
>.>'

for all the wrong reasons.

[yuujirou]

Originally Posted by evanny

for all the wrong reasons.

very few things in this world are done for the 'right' reasons

[GoNative]

Originally Posted by evanny

pfff...let there be dish washers rather than those millions on pointless office jobs that achieve nothing, create nothing and are created for sole purpose of satisfying lazy Americans who are ok with their lives in the cube.

Apart from being one of the more ridiculous comments you've ever made I would say Japan beats the US hands down when it comes to lazy office workers who like to live their lives in the cube!

[evanny]

Originally Posted by GoNative

Apart from being one of the more ridiculous comments you've ever made I would say Japan beats the US hands down when it comes to lazy office workers who like to live their lives in the cube!

part of america was just an example. arab countrys take that to the next level.
whats so funny? i belive a dishwasher is more useful than BS paper pusher whos job exists only so that government that can't create actual jobs where something is made woudnt lose voters. hence - americas economy were people are paid for doing nothing of value.
P.S everything in this text is generalized of course.

[JasonTakeshi]

Originally Posted by yuujirou

Just to address the respect of a job~
A job is not respectable based on it's pay but the idea that society has of it.

In a kitchen, the dish washer is the least favoured job, yet the absolute most important in the entire kitchen.
Most people, when they hear "dish washer", they think of a low income, low class person working the position, while the chef is held in higher regard.
>.>'''

Don't know how it is in the States, but here people generally respect the profession of garbage collector. Atleast in the places I've been.

They are the ones who clean the sh*t we make. That deserves some respect to say the least.

Or maybe you're associating respect with prestige.

[Sinestra]

Originally Posted by yuujirou

At least they dress better than the lot of niggerfaggots that infect the American suburbs with their "gangsta" selves~
American gangsters are pathetic compared to the rest of the world.

sigh yuujiro im sure there was a more tasteful way to get that thought across without breaking out the N word which everyone thinks is ok to throw around nowadays. Regardless. suburbs are a different story all i see is a bunch of Caucasian middle class boys thinking their hard because they want to emulate a life style they know nothing about. I know some areas where "pathetic" would not apply and you would be lucky to make it out with your limbs attached.

Anyway im not sure why anyone would want to glorify this lifestyle i dont care what country you live in. Most people end up in this sort of life because they couldn't or wouldn't do anything to better themselves. A life of crime regardless if its a petty thief or a full blow crime syndicate should never glorified actually make something out of your life unless a life of crime hurting other, stealing from other and murdering is what you really want then by all means go for it.

[dogsbody70]

Yakuza - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

not sure how correct this is.

[dogsbody70]

Originally Posted by GoNative

Apart from being one of the more ridiculous comments you've ever made I would say Japan beats the US hands down when it comes to lazy office workers who like to live their lives in the cube!

Is that a fact? I thought that they were supposed to be extremely hard working and for long hours. Have things changed?

[ARoomwithaMOOSE]

Originally Posted by yuujirou

At least they dress better than the lot of niggerfaggots that infect the American suburbs with their "gangsta" selves~
American gangsters are pathetic compared to the rest of the world.

Damn Man,
I think I love you^^

In all the research that I have done on Japan I have never once heard of an "American" Yakuza member (that would just be plain wrong,if you ask me).
I have the up most respect for the Yakuza (in the way I respect a shark) I just can't see them wanting a bunch of American "home boys" hanging around.
Besides they are really big on "honor" from what I hear and MOST guys (I said most guys not all guys) in the states just wouldn't make the cut.
Not sure why any one would want to "live" like that seeing as how that is not really a fun life style?_?
(gotta love the tattoo's though)

[GoNative]

Originally Posted by dogsbody70

Is that a fact? I thought that they were supposed to be extremely hard working and for long hours. Have things changed?

They work long, long hours but do they work efficiently or especially hard? Well let's just say in my experience here, no they don't. On the whole I'd say many companies here employ way more people than you would find in similar sized companies in the west.

I'd almost go so far to categorize Japan as a socialist country in a weird sense. It's not just the government though looking after the people it's companies hiring far more people than what is needed to get the job done efficiently. Companies here unlike western companies trying to cut costs and improve efficiency generally don't lay off large portions of their workforce. They negotiate lower pay across the board, they don't pay their executives ridiculous wages compared to the average worker and basically do all they can to keep as many people employed as possible. Although Japan may seem to outsiders as some sort of amazingly technologically advanced country they rarely seem to go for technological solutions that would displace a whole lot of workers from their jobs. I've even seen people in government offices using an abacus!

Obviously not all companies are like this but many of the big old ones are. so you have large amounts of workers turning up for work and spending 12+ hours sitting around the workplace with little more than a couple of hours of genuine work to get done each day. They'll sit at their desk all day, barely chatting to each other looking as though they are busy but in reality getting very little done. Still they have a job and if they continue this until retirement the company will generally look after them pretty well with a nice pension pakage.

So I'd say many companies here are actually terribly inefficient but hey you have a society where most people are still employed (even if many are paid pretty poorly) and you don't hardly have any of the crime and issues caused by unemployment and poverty found in many western countries.