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11-10-2010, 10:54 PM
How many Graduates obtain a worthwhile career when they leave UNI?
I have heard of many who end up doing menial work. the old days of apprenticeships were often a great way to gain practical skills. so many of our previous skills are disappearing. I believe that for the Scots there is help-- but non Scots will have to pay a certain amount. Many of us are suffering in many ways from these present CUTS. I just feel the coalition are racing through Bills without really understanding what they are doing. I was thinking of applying to OPEN UNIVERSITY if there was a COURSE that excites me-- but then you don't get the experience of University Life-- which must be unique really. How many students study the Courses that will help them on their way outside? 
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11-10-2010, 11:21 PM
I'm a student, currently in my year abroad. I study French and Japanese back in the UK and will be doing Japan next year. I'm really looking forward to it!
 It took me a while to decide between French and German and French and Japanese. I'd done both French and German for a long time before Japanese and sometimes I worry that Japanese won't help me in the long run unless I want to live in Japan (which I might not), but I'm glad to have taken this course just simply for the experience and the friends I have made.
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11-11-2010, 12:15 AM
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-------------- @dogsbody70 Your statement about apprenticeship is very true. People invest too much into the theoretical aspects and fail when it comes to practicality. I've seen this several times during my time at retail. There's a 59-year-old lady who had been with the company for 15 years. She's so accustomed to the place that she does most of the managing duties for the freshly-graduated human resources employees. What's the difference between them? She didn't have a higher education. They, on the other hand, are radiating all the experience in the world they so happened to attain from college...(apparently because that paper said so). The lady only makes around 16 dollars an hour working the floors with us(a significantly larger mount than what we earned due to her duration with the company). I get mixed emotions every time I see a freshly-graduated employees working in the higher departments (making in the upper $20) taking credit for what they didn't do. They always come looking for her asking "what should we do with this?" and "what do you think we should do about that?" It's really a sad state if you ask me
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11-11-2010, 09:30 AM
Just seen those student riots in London over the rise of tuition fees. They stormed the Conservitive HQ, took to the roof and threw fire extinguishers at the police. It was absolutely classic stuff
  An Cafe, Vidoll, Versailles, Dir En Grey, Deathgaze, the GazettE, alice nine., UVERworld, Kiryu , YUI, AKB48, Buono!, Berryz Koubou, C-ute, S/mileage, Morning Musume, Zoro, Lolita23Q, Visual Kei, Oshare Kei, J-Rock, J-Pop, Idol groups FTW (≧∀≦) 
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11-13-2010, 12:03 PM
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Pd. What movie is the frame in your dp from? everything is relative and contradictory ~
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11-13-2010, 01:17 PM
You think a surgeon goes directly to the cutting business after school? I'm sorry, but it takes years under the tuition of someone with experience to go to that stage, and why do you think that? Because experience is a must. The degree is just a small part of you being a doctor and the legal part requested for that.
"Manganese? Is that manga language?" - lol? 
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11-13-2010, 08:47 PM
My friend scored 18/20.
Hi-Tech cheating with wireless methods and tiny camera inserted @pen. I bet he will do great having his... Diploma. So yeah, diplomas means everything. (Obvious sarcasm is obvious)
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11-13-2010, 09:19 PM
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People are going way too far into the extremities! It's stupid to say that in general either Experience or education is more valuable than the other. Of course it depends on the field and career, but the best combination is a good education and good experience!
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11-13-2010, 10:13 PM
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He gets an high score, by cheating, he gets his diploma. Good for him, lookin'all smarty and stuff. Then when he gets a job... Something like that happens. My point: Just because someone has a diploma it doesn't make them qualified for a job. Because nowadays, with the new technologies, it's so easy to cheat on exams... (Not saying that everyone does - but many do) OaSN: And even a "legit" diploma, in alot of cases, doesn't make them qualified for a job. Experience does more than a piece of paper - and that's what everyone asks for nowadays. But hey! We all have to start somewhere. That's why we have interships, amaright?
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11-13-2010, 10:40 PM
In where I live, they value more experience than a degree. And the way you generally get experience here is by interships. And the way you get interships is, in most cases, by getting a degree.
And by cheating you get a diploma. With a diploma, you get an internship. With an intership gained by these methods, usually you won't last longer than a week. F*cking paradoxal. They value more experience than a degree yet the only way to get experience is, generally speaking, by getting an intership. And to get an intership, generally speaking, you need a degree. And you can cheat to get one. That's how things where I live, GENERALLY SPEAKING, works. The next-in-line bankrupt country, Portugal.
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