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thanks to Jambo for this. maybe it could help somebody on here.


Tuition fee blow for middle class: Government accused of imposing 'stealth tax' | Mail Online

student protests in UK.


BBC News - Violence at Tory HQ overshadows student fees protest

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This sounds like a very good system to me. It's hard to put this kind of sophisticated policy in place in a larger country like the US though.
Yes. But also because US universities are really really good. Having attended a public university in Japan as an undergrad, i can tell you most of the classes were a joke. (My major classes were pretty intense though).


I'm now doing a course at LSE and even the basic electives are way harder than my program in Japan - even with the language barrier!
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I'm paying around $27,000 annually plus housing to attend the University of Oregon. HELLA EXPENSIVE!....but not as expensive as USC or UCLA!
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I'm paying around $27,000 annually plus housing to attend the University of Oregon. HELLA EXPENSIVE!....but not as expensive as USC or UCLA!
That's more than the total cost of my degree in Canada.
Books, tuition, everything under 24k total for 4 years, and that's 24k CAD, not USD lol.


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I wonder what it costs in Japan to attend University or Higher college.

It seems to be getting way too expensive here in UK and also what about lodgings.

Can you stay on campus or do you lodge outside?

I imagine part of belonging to a UNI-- is the social aspect and all the facilities and clubs, organisations etc.The cameraderie must be great?

Home study must be harder.

with so many graduates ending up with high fees to repay when they earn enough-- Is it all worth while?

Here there seem to be lots of graduates who cannot get a decent job.

also when you decide to study special subjects-- do you have an end in Mind? A field of work that you would love to join and progress in.

are there enough scientiic or engineering students?

So many seem to be going in for I T. Is that wise? will there be jobs out there if too many students plump for I T?
Since someone's revived this thread I might as well reply to it, lol.

The cost of university is extortiant, especially in the UK where you can now be paying up to £9k a year, or a lot more if you're an international student, and that isn't including accomodation, food, books, travel and so forth. I do still maintain that it's possible for anyone and everyone to receive an education, regardless of monetary funds and economic background. I - for many reasons - had to do my university degree through distance learning, but because I'm a fulll-time student I don't work, so I have no income, and my uni is kind enough to waive fees for students in this case, in fact I even received help for books and equipment. If a student knows where to look and plans correctly then they can still get an education, even if it's not the exact one they may have liked.

I think home-study is more difficult. It gets lonely at times, because half my friends work full-time and the other half are away at brick-and-mortar universities, so I'm more often than not alone. I think in some respects it can be better. It enables a student to organise their timetable to suit their life, encourages independent study, allows for more concentration, and so forth. There is a lack of social interaction and independence, because one isn't living alone or meeting new people, but at the same time - for some - the pros far outweigh the cons. Less debts, more free time, closer to family, easier to concentrate, easier to revise . . .

The downside is - like you said - there are no jobs. I literally can't work in the UK. If I was to be a teacher here I'd need to go into debt to spend an extra year at university (the government/uni won't offer support for anything other than the first degree), then move to some obscure part of the country in hopes of finding a vacancy, and all for tuppence of a wage. I'm lucky that I want to work abroad. I earn exactly the same as I would in the UK, and I get an apartment found for me and key-money/deposits paid for, and I don't have to go into debt and spend an extra year finding a job. I have several relatives who've emmegrated, and a few friends who wish to, and I can't blame any of them. Graduates have it tough. There just isn't any jobs going in this current climate.

Sorry I can't answer many of the other questions, especially concerning Japan in specific, but other members have more eloquently and kindly offered good answers anyway. I will say though that I think - in this day and age - if one wants a good job in their hometown then it may be best looking at apprenticeships or NVQ's, because - depending on the individual's needs - it may not be in their best interests to get a degree.
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That's more than the total cost of my degree in Canada.
Books, tuition, everything under 24k total for 4 years, and that's 24k CAD, not USD lol.
24k CAD is like what, 800 US?
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24k CAD is like what, 800 US?
lol more like 20k at the time, a fraction of the cost for the same, if not better, education (^-^)v


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05-28-2011, 08:15 PM

wow man either Canada's got its education system together or the education is a joke. Two years of my high school education cost more than all of your university tuition....you;re quite smart to have studied in Canada then.
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wow man either Canada's got its education system together or the education is a joke. Two years of my high school education cost more than all of your university tuition....you;re quite smart to have studied in Canada then.
it's the former
our government subsidizes a lot of the cost, but our taxes are also higher


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Yes. But also because US universities are really really good.
Not in Alabama they're not Lots of colleges in Montgomery (the capital of Alabama) are a complete JOKE. A friend of mine was at the Admissions Office of Troy University overheard them accepting a girl who graduated high school with a 2.0 GPA. I mean their graduation rate is 18%. Even at the university I'm going to they have a 95% acceptance rate with a 24% graduation rate. They let any old dumbass in who has the cash and I have to suffer with these retards in my classes while they catch up It's a joke and not nearly as cheap as it should be (approx. $7,000 annually).


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