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You have been saying this for years, Tenchu.
And the more I learn, the more I see I'm right.


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For forever she will wander, for forever she withholds; the Demon King is on his way, you’d best not be learned untold…
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As for whether US foreign policy is fascism; I don't think so!
I think it's looking at the more subtle examples that enforces my view.

In short, if you take Thailand as an example, you do get a neglected and fascist feeling. Not that the US has legitimacy in Thailand, but the tyrant elite and ruling class, backed by the military and monarchy, use great figures as a legitimizing technique.

The Thai government is basically controlled by the military. Weak coalition governments with MP's bought out by big business, ineffectual in creating policy and have thier strings pulled by the corrupt. The source of so much despair and poverty in this country, yet kept this way as those in power benefit. Keeping the doors closed to foreign markets, allowing the rich to grow richer whilst the poor drag their feet because the products they produce are worthless under the current market layout. It's terrible.

The military has no democratic claim, end of story. The only way they can maintain their grip is through claiming legitimacy from other bodies. The monarchy is traditionally used for this - racist Buddhist karma dictating he's a Demi-God who should not be questioned. Whenever the military acts, they do it in his name, claim they took orders from him. They didn't take orders from him, as they hold all the power, yet it gives them legitimacy, so they think.

When Abhisit (Thai PM) sucks up to Obama and shakes his hand, it does not help. Pro democracy demonstrators were just massacred in the streets by this man, yet Obama is all cozy. Thailand is worse than Iran in terms of racism and oppression of its people, but the US does not care, so long as the Thai elite remain useful to US capitalism, that's all good.

You can see this US policy all over the world. They do not care about freedom and demoracy, they'll openly support tyrants and dictators such as Saddam or the Persian Shah on larger scales, Abhisit on smaller, so long as it lines US pockets. The fight against communism to install democracy is a complete farce - the US only cares about the appearance of democracy, not the substance of it. There's no democracy in Thailand. The only time we've had it was 2001 - 2006, but Thaksin was vicously put down and is to be executed for terrorism if he comes back to Thailand.

It's fascism. Lies. They're not here to help or make things better, only get themselves ahead. Human rights, freedom, democracy. **** off. They support who they want when they want and only do it to keep themselves ahead. The desires of the common people, such as the Thai peasantry, are entirely irrelevant - control should be maintained from the top down in pure fascism so the market remains uninterupted.

US citizens grow fat and rich with the capitalism their government produces and squeezes from other countries. Just as so the Americans know, others are shouldering this burden.


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And the more I learn, the more I see I'm right.
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US citizens grow fat and rich with the capitalism their government produces and squeezes from other countries. Just as so the Americans know, others are shouldering this burden.
Please continue to wear your ignorance like a badge of honor. US CITIZENS are not getting richer.

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Please continue to wear your ignorance like a badge of honor. US CITIZENS are not getting richer.
Good point. Probably why US foreign policy is constantly getting more severe and corrupt.

Do you not see any truth in what I'm saying? You think it's okay for the US to take sides and steer the fate of others who arn't even allowed to vote for them?


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Good point. Probably why US foreign policy is constantly getting more severe and corrupt.

Do you not see any truth in what I'm saying? You think it's okay for the US to take sides and steer the fate of others who arn't even allowed to vote for them?
I think the US should mind its own business unless it has the power to help in situations in which it has the power to help.
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I think the US should mind its own business unless it has the power to help in situations in which it has the power to help.
I agree completly.

Did anyone else laugh at the fact that Obama's speech after the mid terms amounted to'Gee,I guess america was too dumb to understand the great things I'm trying to do."

I feel like a scolded schoolchild:P I am apparently too stupid to understand what he's trying to do,so I should stop thinking and just vote all of his socalist policies through.

idiot.
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11-14-2010, 07:31 PM

im so sorry for amrica now that tea baggers have the power...
i mean you have to be nuts to vote for them. they are against what average class american wants + just crazy. O'Donnell - im not a witch!
im sorry to ask but were americans get these nut jobs? one dresses like Nazi on weekends with his son....+ EVERYONE who is against homosexuals gets caught being a homo....
btw...what an BS was that they repelled was it 3% tax for what you make over 200$ ? it's probably that there still is the belief that anyone can become a millionaire so if that happens people don't want that tax to be too high....
+ the don't ask don't tell was set back again thou 70% of americans are for it. like...they had to make a "study" how this will affect military...yea since when anyone asks soldier anything? next - will you go to war...please?
+ idea of pensions being set for people of 70 years old while GE and Mobile didn't pay any taxes last year.

really - these people in tea party need charismatic leader and here we go - 3rd Reich rises again....
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im so sorry for amrica now that tea baggers have the power...
i mean you have to be nuts to vote for them. they are against what average class american wants + just crazy. O'Donnell - im not a witch!
im sorry to ask but were americans get these nut jobs? one dresses like Nazi on weekends with his son....+ EVERYONE who is against homosexuals gets caught being a homo....
btw...what an BS was that they repelled was it 3% tax for what you make over 200$ ? it's probably that there still is the belief that anyone can become a millionaire so if that happens people don't want that tax to be too high....
+ the don't ask don't tell was set back again thou 70% of americans are for it. like...they had to make a "study" how this will affect military...yea since when anyone asks soldier anything? next - will you go to war...please?
+ idea of pensions being set for people of 70 years old while GE and Mobile didn't pay any taxes last year.

really - these people in tea party need charismatic leader and here we go - 3rd Reich rises again....
The Tea Baggers didn't win. They lost in over 2/3 of the races they were in. O'Donnell was destroyed by her competition.

It's hard not to let the media cloud reality.
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11-14-2010, 07:58 PM

i know that O'Donnell was droped early on.
and sorry for tea tea baggers i meant that conservationists won. some of the things they say and do...just pure crazy.
as they say - individual crazy is hard to find but almost every group is.
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i know that O'Donnell was droped early on.
and sorry for tea tea baggers i meant that conservationists won. some of the things they say and do...just pure crazy.
as they say - individual crazy is hard to find but almost every group is.
I wish it was conservationists (people who believe in protecting nature) who won, but it was more conservatives in the House of Representatives. The Senate still has a left-win majority, so in the end it means little will be accomplished in the next two years.
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