Dicuss Wikileak and Julian Assange

[Ronin4hire]

Originally Posted by Ryzorian

Afganistan and Iraq aren't messes from American interest's perspective..That's what your missing Ronin. As to secrets, all armies have those. Still your wrong about the US not saying and doing the same thing, if you really look at what US objectives truely are, they have been doing exactly that from the very beginning.

Like what? Give me an example.

[MMM]

Originally Posted by Ronin4hire

lol.. you're paranoid.

Here's a hint. Stop being so sensitive to criticism of your country.

I appreciate the psychological evaluation, but any unfair statement about anything gets criticized. Obviously I am not the only one that feels that way.

[Ronin4hire]

Originally Posted by MMM

I appreciate the psychological evaluation, but any unfair statement about anything gets criticized. Obviously I am not the only one that feels that way.

Then address it directly instead of trying to play the victim.

[MMM]

Originally Posted by Ronin4hire

Then address it directly instead of trying to play the victim.

Please cut the drama, Ronin. I am not playing the victim.

Originally Posted by john2kin

he is a real hero .. he showed the real face of USA..

Originally Posted by shu

Julian Assange is a hero,the u.s govenment is evil.they destroy there own country then blame it on other people.

I did not like these remarks. They are obviously simple attacks on the US based in very little than the wave of anti-US sentiment.

[Ronin4hire]

Originally Posted by MMM

Please cut the drama, Ronin. I am not playing the victim.

That's how I interpreted it. You're acting like noone criticizes Saudi Arabia or China and everyone picks on poor America. It's bullsh*t to be quite honest. There is so much criticism of both countries amongst others that to try and measure who receives the most criticism would be pointless.

Originally Posted by MMM

I did not like these remarks. They are obviously simple attacks on the US based in very little than the wave of anti-US sentiment.

I agree.. they are stupid remarks made by stupid people. If you had just done this from the beginning then I would have had no problem with it.

[MMM]

Originally Posted by Ronin4hire

That's how I interpreted it. You're acting like noone criticizes Saudi Arabia or China and everyone picks on poor America. It's bullsh*t to be quite honest. There is so much criticism of both countries amongst others that to try and measure who receives the most criticism would be pointless.



I agree.. they are stupid remarks made by stupid people. If you had just done this from the beginning then I would have had no problem with it.

It was a flip remark, Ronin. Maybe you are the one being overly sensitive, overly analytical, and sucking the air out of the thread.

[Ronin4hire]

Originally Posted by MMM

It was a flip remark, Ronin. Maybe you are the one being overly sensitive, overly analytical, and sucking the air out of the thread.

lol.. whatever.

I don't believe it was a flip remark. I believe you were directing your comments towards me initially but now realise that you don't have a case.

You quoted me after all.

[MMM]

Originally Posted by Ronin4hire

lol.. whatever.

I don't believe it was a flip remark. I believe you were directing your comments towards me initially but now realise that you don't have a case.

You quoted me after all.

I quoted you as evidence that it wasn't only the US that is criticized in Wikileaks because you mentioned that Saudi Arabia and China are also mentioned. I was basically agreeing with you and made a flip remark about it. How come it has to be the other guy who is always paranoid?

Don't bother answering. This is my last post in this part of the conversation.

[Ronin4hire]

Originally Posted by MMM

I quoted you as evidence that it wasn't only the US that is criticized in Wikileaks because you mentioned that Saudi Arabia and China are also mentioned. I was basically agreeing with you and made a flip remark about it. How come it has to be the other guy who is always paranoid?

Don't bother answering. This is my last post in this part of the conversation.

Well then there was no need to be so evasive earlier then.

You provide half answers and evade my questions and then when I interpret things the way I do you try and flip the paranoid thing around on me.

If anyone is to blame for the last page or so it was you.

I'm out.

[Ghap]

Lets look at the actual "crimes" hes commited.

1) He slept with a women in Sweeden, it was consensual.

Here i understand it gets complicated and have heard a several reports.

-the condom broke.

- he did not impregnate her.

- he did not infect her with any disease.

- They did infact enjoy consensual sex.

turns out its a crime on the male side if condoms break.

2) this one is more serious as basically is rape.

he had sex with a women without protection and while she was sleeping.....


If you ever visit Sweeden pack huge/massive/unbreakable condoms.


To finish are you really that suprised that national armed forces commit atrocities or that they have been sent there to achieve goals that they are not aware of?

History books are your friend

-tea
-spices
-slaves
-drugs

guess what OIL.

anyway were going of tangent here.

Assanges crimes are a little debatable as at the end of the day he just said it to the world!

and although he isnt american...is he still allowed rights under the 1st ammendment? (freedom of speech)

If so weres the crime?
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