Japanese views on sexual entertainment

[Sitron]

When I go to Tokyo this summer I'll probably try out a few strip clubs. Will I be among old perverted guys, or do Japanese people in their 20s also visit such places?

Also what does Japanese people think about paying for sexual entertainment/services (prostitution, strip clubs etc) - do they see it as here in Norway, something only for desperate old men that can't get a woman?

[Brass]

I'm interested in this as well as I plan to do the same thing as the OP

[princessmarisa]

As far as I am aware the whole area is called water play, or wet play, something similar.

I will find my sources later, but I remember reading that full on prostitution is harder to find and quite rare, but most hostess bars will have back rooms for massages and such.

The places that do prostitution tend to mainly have girls who emigrated from other parts of Asia, sometimes working illegally. The higher up hostess bars and less-seedy massages are mainly Japanese girls and at the top of the food chain are the tall/blonde western beauties who often don't do anything seedy unless it involves a specially arranged private date and will cost you an absolute fortune in time and money. I believe they are called dohan.

It was mainly salarymen I saw going into hostess bars and other places covered by the telltale plastic hangdown sheets of half naked anime girls..or places with profile style photos of girls stuck outside.

Not sure about strip-clubs in the western sense. Not sure that is all that well known in Japan.

[MMM]

Originally Posted by princessmarisa

As far as I am aware the whole area is called water play, or wet play, something similar.

Are you talking about Mizu-shoubai? [水商売, The "water trade"]

Originally Posted by princessmarisa

I will find my sources later, but I remember reading that full on prostitution is harder to find and quite rare, but most hostess bars will have back rooms for massages and such.

I have been in plenty of hostess bars, and is the OPPOSITE of how they run their businesses. By being flirtatious and cute the hostesses can keep the customers coming back again and again. The whole point is, once she has sex with her customer the mystery is gone, and chances are he will not want to spend any more money on her. Hostess bars capitalize on a man's ego and desire to score.

Originally Posted by princessmarisa

The places that do prostitution tend to mainly have girls who emigrated from other parts of Asia, sometimes working illegally. The higher up hostess bars and less-seedy massages are mainly Japanese girls and at the top of the food chain are the tall/blonde western beauties who often don't do anything seedy unless it involves a specially arranged private date and will cost you an absolute fortune in time and money. I believe they are called dohan.

A club where illegal SE Asian women are employed as prostitutes would be considered for bottom dwellers. 99% of hostess bars in Japan are staffed by Japanese women, and no prostitution is involved.

Originally Posted by princessmarisa

It was mainly salarymen I saw going into hostess bars and other places covered by the telltale plastic hangdown sheets of half naked anime girls..or places with profile style photos of girls stuck outside.

Those probably weren't hostess bars, but may have been massage places. Here a lighter form of prostitution takes place, and in general foreign men are not welcome.

Originally Posted by princessmarisa

Not sure about strip-clubs in the western sense. Not sure that is all that well known in Japan.

I have never seen one in real life, butI have seen them on TV, but it is more of a cabaret type show than one girl dancing to Warrent's "Cherry Pie".

[spicytuna]

Originally Posted by Sitron

Also what does Japanese people think about paying for sexual entertainment/services (prostitution, strip clubs etc) - do they see it as here in Norway, something only for desperate old men that can't get a woman?

The Japanese sex industry is massive. There's a service which caters to every interest/fetish possible, and then some. I won't go into the details but check out a site like fuzoku.jp to get an idea of what's out there.

As for public perception, it's much more accepted than it is in western countries. For example, when I visited a famous Yukaku in Osaka a few years ago, I was surprised to see men in their work uniforms strolling the streets. I even witnessed an employee coming out from an establishment as he thanked his boss for treating him. (What the hell, I work my ass off and I get a Starbucks gift certificate!)

With that being said, most of these establishments are off limit to foreigners. Unless you see a sign which specifically says, "Foreigners welcome", I'd go with the assumption that you aren't welcome.

[NanteNa]

Yeah, I reckon you're right spicytuna.

I mean come on.. we're talking about the land of Loli Porn for Chreezy's sake.

[termogard]

Originally Posted by Sitron

....desperate old men that can't get a woman?

As far as I know, "desperate old men" in Japan have enough money to acomplish so-called "sexual tours" to any part of the world.

[masaegu]

Originally Posted by NanteNa

I mean come on.. we're talking about the land of Loli Porn for Chreezy's sake.

You sure make silly comments for a mod. You've never even been to Japan.

[MMM]

Originally Posted by termogard

As far as I know, "desperate old men" in Japan have enough money to acomplish so-called "sexual tours" to any part of the world.

Tours that men from all over the world, including the US and Europe, participate in.

I will be watching this thread, and if it gets too misinforming, it will be closed.

[termogard]

Originally Posted by MMM

Tours that men from all over the world, including the US and Europe, participate in.

Of course, they do. No offence to japanese men in particular, I just mean that many old men aren't SO desperate on a specific field "to get a woman".