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[termogard]

Originally Posted by GoNative

I actually did a number of physics subjects as part of science degree majoring in meteorology. So I do have the ability to understand some of what is going on. Did you do physics at university?

What is it? An attempt to test my knowledges, huh?
BTW, what does actually mean "I studied a number of physics subjects "?

Yes, I studied basic of physics at school and later - at University. Further, I have many friends who graduated geo-physical faculty of our University, now they are working as real meteorologists on various stations. We can to talk on-line and mind you, I also have the ability to understand some of what is going on..
So?

[godwine]

1000 miles, that will mean Korea and part of China and Russia will also need to evacuate... I suppose we can just dig a hole somewhere and hide all the people...... that makes a lot of sense......

[termogard]

Originally Posted by godwine

1000 miles, that will mean Korea and part of China and Russia will also need to evacuate... I suppose we can just dig a hole somewhere and hide all the people...... that makes a lot of sense......

I wasn't surprised when walking into local supermarket today was able to see a group of japanese men. They were purchasing packs of lithium AA batteries and marine products.

[GoNative]

Originally Posted by termogard

What is it? An attempt to test my knowledges, huh?
BTW, what does actually mean "I studied a number of physics subjects "?

Yes, I studied basic of physics at school and later - at University. Further, I have many friends who graduated geo-physical faculty of our University, now they are working as real meteorologists on various stations. We can to talk on-line and mind you, I also have the ability to understand some of what is going on..
So?

You iimplied I had no idea what I was talking about and you were the one who claimed that the radiactivity being released could affect other countries. I have stated every bit of information I have seen from scientists makes it quite clear that this is not another event like Chernobyl. An event like that would be required to put radioactive material high enough into the atmosphere for it to be a risk of having an impact in any other country. If you have some information from any credible scientists that suggest such an explosion is likely then put up or shut up.

[GoNative]

This from Sir John Beddington who is the Government Chief Scientific Advisor to the UK.

Let me now talk about what would be a reasonable worst case scenario. If the Japanese fail to keep the reactors cool and fail to keep the pressure in the containment vessels at an appropriate level, you can get this, you know, the dramatic word “meltdown”. But what does that actually mean? What a meltdown involves is the basic reactor core melts, and as it melts, nuclear material will fall through to the floor of the container. There it will react with concrete and other materials … that is likely… remember this is the reasonable worst case, we don’t think anything worse is going to happen. In this reasonable worst case you get an explosion. You get some radioactive material going up to about 500 metres up into the air. Now, that’s really serious, but it’s serious again for the local area. It’s not serious for elsewhere even if you get a combination of that explosion it would only have nuclear material going in to the air up to about 500 metres. If you then couple that with the worst possible weather situation i.e. prevailing weather taking radioactive material in the direction of Greater Tokyo and you had maybe rainfall which would bring the radioactive material down do we have a problem? The answer is unequivocally no. Absolutely no issue. The problems are within 30 km of the reactor. And to give you a flavour for that, when Chernobyl had a massive fire at the graphite core, material was going up not just 500 metres but to 30,000 feet. It was lasting not for the odd hour or so but lasted months, and that was putting nuclear radioactive material up into the upper atmosphere for a very long period of time. But even in the case of Chernobyl, the exclusion zone that they had was about 30 kilometres. And in that exclusion zone, outside that, there is no evidence whatsoever to indicate people had problems from the radiation. The problems with Chernobyl were people were continuing to drink the water, continuing to eat vegetables and so on and that was where the problems came from. That’s not going to be the case here. So what I would really re-emphasise is that this is very problematic for the area and the immediate vicinity and one has to have concerns for the people working there. Beyond that 20 or 30 kilometres, it’s really not an issue for health.

If you or your highly knowledgable friends believe that the Chief Scientific Advisor to the UK is incorrect in what he has said then please let us know on what points you believe he is misinformed.

[termogard]

Originally Posted by GoNative

then put upor shut up

What did you say? Hey, seems you need a course of polite conversation. Use such tone while talking to your daddy or mommy, not me or other members of this forum.

[eezy1]

Originally Posted by termogard

What did you say? Hey, seems you need a course of polite conversation. Use such tone while talking to your daddy or mommy, not me or other members of this forum.

put up or shut up is a saying with a valid meaning.

dont write cheques ur ass cant cash is another

[termogard]

America on nuclear alert: Could fallout from Japan explosion reach U.S. West Coast?

Fears that America could be hit by the nuclear fallout from the Japan earthquake dramatically increased today after the reactor hit by the tsunami went into 'meltdown'.
Officials revealed fuel rods are melting inside three damaged reactors at the Fukushima plant, triggering fears of a serious radiation leak.

Scientists in the U.S. warned today of a 'worst-case scenario' in which the highly radioactive material could be blasted into the atmosphere and blown towards the West Coast of America.
They said it could be picked up by powerful 30,000ft winds, carrying the debris across the Pacific and hitting America within four days.

Earthquake-hit Japan is fighting to avoid a nuclear catastrophe as one over-heating reactor lost its cooling today, following explosions at two other reactors at the Fukushima plant.
Leading nuclear expert Dr John Large, who has visited the plant, said he is concerned that where the radiation ends up is ‘in the lap of the gods’.

The exclusion zone keeps being raised. First it was 3km, then 10, now 20. This plant has gone through all the steps that occurred at Three Mile Island, and that led to total meltdown.
‘It looks like the reactors automatically shut down following the earthquake, causing a massive collapse of power to the grid,' he told the Sunday Express.

Others have suggested any radioactive cloud would be likely to blow out east across the Pacific.

'The wind direction for the time being seems to point the (nuclear) pollution towards the Pacific,' Andre-Claude Lacoste, of the French Nuclear Safety Authority, told AFP.

A second explosion rocked the nuclear plant today, sending smoke into the air. The blast follows a similar explosion in another unit on Saturday and a further reactor has also lost its cooling capacity.
What would the reaction be if radiation from Japan reaches U.S. West Coast?If the radiation risk rises significantly, tablets could be distributed to prevent iodine-131 from being absorbed into the body.

Radioactive particles, which attack or impair cells, can be taken into the body through breathing, eating or drinking.
Atomic expert Dr Peter Weish said after Chernobyl that good practice for nuclear accidents includes sealing flats with adhesive tape, covering your mouth with a mask or wet cloth and having little contact with rain.

California is watching Japan's efforts to contain leaks and looking at its own air, water and food supply - but public health officials said there is currently 'no danger'.

But University of Washington Professor of Atmospheric Science Dan Jaffe told Q13 Fox earlier: 'Based on what we're seeing in terms of the radiation that's being released now, there is no risk at all.
'Even in the worst case scenario there is a low likelihood of much risk over the Pacific Northwest.'
Nuclear regulators say the General Electric-designed reactors involved in the emergency are very similar to 23 reactors used in the U.S

'The worst case scenario is that the fuel rods fuse together,' nuclear expert Joe Cirincione said.

'The temperatures get so hot that they melt together into a radioactive molten mass that bursts through the containment mechanisms and it is exposed to the outside so there's spewed radioactivity into the ground, into the air and into the water,' he told Fox 43.
'Some of that radioactivity could carry in the atmosphere to the West Coast of the United States.'

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[termogard]

Originally Posted by eezy1

put up or shut up is a saying with a valid meaning.

dont write cheques ur ass cant cash is another

Oh, thanks a lot for explanation In other case I would think these are classical examples of a dirty street slang of semi-literate scums.....

[termogard]

PLUME OF RADIATION

Gregory Jaczko, the top U.S. nuclear regulator, cast doubt on efforts to cool overheating reactors, saying workers may be hit with "lethal doses" of radiation.

"It would be very difficult for emergency workers to get near the reactors," Jaczko said.

A United Nations forecast projects the radioactive plume from the Fukushima facility would reach the Aleutian Islands on Thursday and hit Southern California late on Friday, The New York Times reported.

The projection, calculated on Tuesday and obtained by the newspaper, gives no information about actual radiation levels, it said. Health and nuclear experts emphasize that radiation in the plume will be diluted as it travels and will have extremely minor health consequences in the United States, it reported.

The U.S. military has ordered its forces to stay 50 miles away from the plant, the Pentagon said. There are at least 55,000 members of the U.S. forces in Japan and offshore assisting the relief operation.

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