Give money to Haiti, not Japan.

[Ronin4hire]

Originally Posted by MMM

No more insults, Ronin.

I wasn't insulting you.

I said your reply was stupid not you.

[Ronin4hire]

Originally Posted by Kayci

All human beings are equal. I just never donated to Haiti, but I donate to loads of other things aside from Japan.

I'm the girl that always leaves tips in every service I can, and in most things, I give whatever I can.
Just for once, I missed Haiti.
Its nothing racist, seeing how I donated aid to Africa.


But in response, the only one with a stick in the ass I am seeing is not MMM....

Like I said.. I wasn't talking about you in particular but things in general.

Just look at those guys earlier in the thread who were trying to use macro-economics to justify their position if you want an example.

[MMM]

Originally Posted by Ronin4hire

I wasn't insulting you.

I said your reply was stupid not you.

I suppose you weren't talking about me, but the stick in my ass. I have been patient for too long Ronin. You received the infraction because you deserve it.

My post was in regard to the fact you thought it was sad that someone would have more affinity for one country rather than another. Completely on topic and fair. Your response was not. End of line.

[Ronin4hire]

Originally Posted by MMM

My post was in regard to the fact you thought it was sad that someone would have more affinity for one country rather than another. Completely on topic and fair. Your response was not. End of line.

No... the fact is not that I think it sad that someone would have more affinity for one country rather than another. I think it's sad that our charity is based on that affinity rather than actual need.

As it happens, I am more connected to Japan than any other country in the world.

Like I said.. stop (wilfully? You're smart when you want to be) misinterpreting me.

[MMM]

Originally Posted by Ronin4hire

No... the fact is not that I think it sad that someone would have more affinity for one country rather than another. I think it's sad that our charity is based on that affinity rather than actual need.

As it happens, I am more connected to Japan than any other country in the world.

Like I said.. stop (wilfully? You're smart when you want to be) misinterpreting me.

A dying person is a dying person. A person without food or heat is a person without food or heat.

Your argument is their government SHOULD be able to take care of them. Duly noted. They can't. People that care will give money to the international charity groups that CAN help them.

Lead, follow, or get out of the way.

[Ronin4hire]

They can financially. So I won't be giving any money.

I heard there is an appeal for blankets and other items that there seems to be a shortage of.

I will be giving a few spare blankets and sleeping bags.

My money however will continue to go to places where it is needed.

[Ryzorian]

Macromanageing how they spend thier money is what nations do Ronin. It's how those nations who hover around the top 20% stay there. You may think that cruel or racist if you want, and perhaps in some reguard it is.

However, if Africa where the second largest economy in the world and a vital stratigic ally and tradeing partner with the US and had a massive earth quake then the US would certainly be doing it's upmost to help. If Japan were more like Haiti .........well then, while the US might feel sorry for them, and offer some assistance, they wouldn't lose any stratigic assets to do so. It's all about national interests in the long run when it comes to what nations do and why.

What individuals and individual groups choose to do is thier buisiness. Many are motivated because they feel as you do Ronin, and assist those who are down trodden where ever they may be. You seem frustrated by international responses that seem dispoportional to you. Your entitled to feel that way but it won't change those basic facts. Really if you feel as strongly about these things as you seem..run for office or prime minister..then you can be "The Decider"

Hopefully, if you ever did manage to win such an office "national interests" won't rear it's ugly head to interfere with your ardent desires.



To the person mentioning Haitis long and unfortuanate history, I'm aware of it. Sometimes you have to understand that a beached whale just can't be saved and the manhours trying to do so would be more productive trying to save something than can be. To me, based on that history and how things are now and how they are likely to be in the forseeable future for Haiti..it's the beached whale.

[globetrotter36]

Originally Posted by Ronin4hire

I'm saying it does matter obviously.

If the country is either a) developed or b) has a vibrant economy (China, India, Russia) then it doesn't deserve charitable assistance. It should pay for it on it's own.

Making a statement like that overlooks the fact that China is 80% peasantry, India has masses of impoverished people as does Russia. As regards your argument for not helping Japanese people (rather than Japan) you could say the Haiti government should have put their house in order along with the other governments to boot.

[Ronin4hire]

accidental double post

[Ronin4hire]

Originally Posted by globetrotter36

Making a statement like that overlooks the fact that China is 80% peasantry, India has masses of impoverished people as does Russia. As regards your argument for not helping Japanese people (rather than Japan) you could say the Haiti government should have put their house in order along with the other governments to boot.

I never said we shouldn't help Japanese people. In fact I've gone to great lengths to make it clear that we should.

I'm just saying we shouldn't give them MONEY. Which is something that they have enough of.

Look.. I'm sick of people not reading what I've actually written.

This is the last post I will be making in this thread. I've made my point if anyone would actually bother to read it.