Give money to Haiti, not Japan.

[fluffy0000]

Originally Posted by globetrotter36

Just because the Red Cross supports governmental and emergency services does not mean they get government funding and in fact don't (referring to UK);

Income and expenditure | British Red Cross

Source: United Kingdom Department for International Development (DFID)

It might help to clarify the difference between 'contributions' and 'government funding'. The International Committee of the Red Cross may not receive government funding - although yes, they do receive 'contributions' or donations from national governments. However, on the national level, the Red Cross organizations are receiving government funding.
In the case of the UK and Canada, the Red Cross organizations in those countries are not just receiving 'contributions', they are receiving government funding and have funding agreements with the governmental aid agencies.

The British Red Cross has received the most government funding (£52 million) above all other international development NGOs from the Department for International Development (UK). This funding was listed under bilateral aid in DfID accounts, which is still government funding and comes with conditions. The Canadian Red Cross received $210,268,139 from all levels of government. The funding the Canadian Red Cross receives from the federal government (specifically the Canadian International Development Agency, CIDA) comes from both funding agreements with specific outcomes and matching donations for emergency situations.

Example below is UK government funding ICRC

Britain to fund emergency medical teams for Libya
Source: United Kingdom Department for International Development (DFID)
Date: 09 Mar 2011

The British Government will fund the International Committee of the Red Cross, enabling them to provide three medical teams to treat and provide medical supplies to 3000 people affected by the ongoing fighting in Libya.

The UK will also provide food and supplies to 100,000 of those most in need. This follows International Development Secretary Andrew Mitchell's visit to the area on Friday.

Support from Britain will deliver:

Funding for the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) to provide three medical/surgical teams;

For more information, please contact Chris Kiggell in the DFID Press Office on 020 7023 0504 or email: [email protected]

[Javen]

I wish there was some way I could help out north korea....is there an underground movement helping average people in North Korea??

[robcardiv]

Help both.
Buddha Bless.
but tbh, the country that shows the most quality from its people will be first on my list. /shrug. I doubt japan will be "All fine and happy" next month.

[robcardiv]

Originally Posted by Javen

I wish there was some way I could help out north korea....is there an underground movement helping average people in North Korea??

Great point.
I can respect idealism.
But for the ones who wish to be helped, I wish I could.

[Ronin4hire]

Originally Posted by globetrotter36

That's not what I am talking about, you need to give my post deeper thought yet it isn't at all difficult if you can of course be bothered.

Nah.. you need to spell out what it is you're saying exactly.

Because I really think that you're pretending to know what you're talking about by trying to act all condescending.

In my post I briefly addressed the knock on effects which would affect the relief effort and the Japanese economy.

What other knock on effects are you talking about?

Furthermore.. I've already said earlier that I'm willing to reconsider my position of the nuclear reactors go into full meltdown.

But it seems like that has been averted.

Originally Posted by globetrotter36

Until now I would have credited you more sense than to make an idiotic remark like that.

Idiotic remark? It's a rhetorical statement aimed at your point. I mean how much of Japan's economic troubles are you willing to lift off of them?

My answer clearly is none because I think they are capable of handling their debt on their own.

I thought this before the disaster and I still think this.

[Ryzorian]

Everyone could just send their money to me, after all, every would be dictator needs to start somewhere and I have yet to hire my first battalion of goons.

Maybe I can get some from Gadafi for cheap, looks like several will be on the market soon.

[globetrotter36]

Originally Posted by Ronin4hire

Nah.. you need to spell out what it is you're saying exactly.

Because I really think that you're pretending to know what you're talking about by trying to act all condescending.

Woo hoo run out of steam have you? There was nothing condescending at all in what I said, the fact is you never consider any further than saying 'Japan is rich enough to sort out it's own financial problems.'

What other knock on effects are you talking about?

As I said that isn't difficult to work out.

Idiotic remark? It's a rhetorical statement aimed at your point. I mean how much of Japan's economic troubles are you willing to lift off of them?

Your remark was plain stupid and you know it! You said 'why not go bail them out yourself.'

Anyway to sum up what would a student living in New Zealand know about Japan's financial affairs? There's no money left for a great many things in the UK. With Japan's investments abroad and a world recession means a lot of lost revenue which will take a long time to recoup. However, Japan is an organized democratic country so would be able to pay it's creditors albeit over time unlike your 'friends' in Haiti in which you likely never get a cent in return.

[Ronin4hire]

Originally Posted by globetrotter36

Anyway to sum up what would a student living in New Zealand know about Japan's financial affairs? There's no money left for a great many things in the UK. With Japan's investments abroad and a world recession means a lot of lost revenue which will take a long time to recoup. However, Japan is an organized democratic country so would be able to pay it's creditors albeit over time unlike your 'friends' in Haiti in which you likely never get a cent in return.

Exactly why Japan should pay for it's own relief effort and not me.

And I've already made a similar point.

We're talking charity after all.

The rest of your post is just you posturing.

Either put up or shut up.

[globetrotter36]

Originally Posted by Ronin4hire

Either put up or shut up.

Why don't you instead of sounding like a parrot? I don't think there is much point discussing anything with you as you clearly have only one set of rationals: YOUR OWN! You clearly have not considered the economic effects and from what I can see have no ability whatsoever in understanding the economics of a country. You remind me of the rural environment that grew up in; people there live in 'cocoons' too.

[tokusatsufan]

Originally Posted by robcardiv

I doubt japan will be "All fine and happy" next month.

Well Vanguard,Gokaiger,OOO and other things I don't watch are back on so they must be in a state in which they can watch them. I think TV stations in Japan know when people are ready for things. What did surprise me is I read they were skipping an episode of Kamen Rider OOO because there was too much destruction in it. But it seems to actually be next weeks episode they're skipping[which looks like a LOL episode]. Even though they've shown the next time preview and kids are gonna wonder why it has a different plot next week!