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03-19-2011, 06:57 PM

I admire people who know that nothing good they will not wait, but they also know their duty to their country. Real heroes.
And as we have in Russia? Our people say in such cases: "Everything will be fine, no danger"- and with these words are sent to certain death ...
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We are have the following message in our media:

"19.03.2011, 06:25 pm, german local time: After estimate of the IAEA is the entrance of the worst case for every day longer always unlikely"

If this are right that would be epic! =)

The 50 heros are the best!!!!


In the thought of Japan And i have to lern for my exit exam.
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Post our people - 03-19-2011, 07:45 PM

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And as we have in Russia? Our people say in such cases: "Everything will be fine, no danger"- and with these words are sent to certain death ...
What are you talking about?
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I think they are actually 180 total they go in 50 man shifts. Yes they are herioc in their efforts knowing what is probable. Kinda like the 300 Spartans in a way.
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I think they are actually 180 total they go in 50 man shifts. Yes they are herioc in their efforts knowing what is probable. Kinda like the 300 Spartans in a way.
Soviet authorities in Chernobyl made a rotation of rescuers. I posted a link to british documentary where a group of volunteers was shown. Robots did not work any long time at rooftor of damaged reactor because their electronic blocks of remote control failed due to very high level of ionizing radiation. So authorities picked up humans. Each volunteer wore gas mask, rubber suit with protective shields made of lead. They had a minute to get rooftop from a nearby service compartment, grab radioactive pieces of fuel or graphite, drop them into broken reactor and run away...After them, fresh group run onto rooftop....

Are those guys at Fukushima have a similar sort of rotation scheme, I wonder?
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Are those guys at Fukushima have a similar sort of rotation scheme, I wonder?
Yes.

They rotate in groups of four if I remember correctly.
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Post rotation - 03-20-2011, 04:41 AM

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Yes.

They rotate in groups of four if I remember correctly.
Thank you for info, Ronin !
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Thank you for info, Ronin !
No problemo
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03-20-2011, 05:45 AM

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Or it may have. Which is quite conceivable since the 2 phenomena are related.

Furthermore inland EQs don't usually have tsunami warnings.

Not to mention that the tsunami in SE Asia was caused by an EQ. That wasn't too long ago.
I think the point you are missing is that this quake was far larger than even any they were possibly warning about. It was the largest earthquake in recorded history in Japan. And still the reactors survived the quake. Amazing really. I don't think you would find any structure in the world is built to withstand a quake larger than anything ever recorded in the history of that country. This was totally unprecedented. Many areas along that coast have had previous tsunamis and had built large walls to prevent one entering their towns. These were specifically built to save lives and were not part of some bungling corporation trying to save money. They built walls to withstand the largest waves they ever expected. Problem was that no one ever expected a wave of this size. And that means no one. Not the Americans or anyone else. At least the Americans can rest easier now knowing that the reactors can obviously handle the larger sized quakes that they warned about. No problems there.
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I think the point you are missing is that this quake was far larger than even any they were possibly warning about. It was the largest earthquake in recorded history in Japan. And still the reactors survived the quake. Amazing really. I don't think you would find any structure in the world is built to withstand a quake larger than anything ever recorded in the history of that country. This was totally unprecedented. Many areas along that coast have had previous tsunamis and had built large walls to prevent one entering their towns. These were specifically built to save lives and were not part of some bungling corporation trying to save money. They built walls to withstand the largest waves they ever expected. Problem was that no one ever expected a wave of this size. And that means no one. Not the Americans or anyone else. At least the Americans can rest easier now knowing that the reactors can obviously handle the larger sized quakes that they warned about. No problems there.
Not really. It was the most powerful quake in Japan's history but it's epicentre was miles off the coast of Japan. While it was a magnitude 9 quake, the actual force in many centres of Japan were about half that of the quake in Christchurch. (Christchurch was said to be 2.2G's of force while the recorded G's in Tokyo were said to be 0.82 if I remember correctly.)

All the damage in Japan was done by tsunami, very little was caused by the quake itself.

Furthermore, while the backup generators of the Fukushima plant were taken out by the tsunami, it was the initial quake that stopped the cooling system altogether.
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