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[MMM]

Originally Posted by termogard

Negative stereotypes? Dogsbody said that israeli people grab land of palestinians. This is a fact, not a stereotype.

That is not what Dogsbody said at all. Not even close to what she said.

I do not like the direction this thread is going. We are not going to solve a conflict that has been going on for decades. For JF's sake, I think it best to set aside.

[Ronin4hire]

Originally Posted by MMM

No, you simply made a mistake, and won't own up to it. The Vietnam War was not the US vs. Vietnam, and in the end Vietnam didn't win because at the end there was no single country called "Vietnam".

lol.. you're the one that made the mistake and now you're backtracking to try and catch me out.

You called it a civil war. It wasn't.

Vietnam today is North Vietnam.. but since there is no South Vietnam anymore then there is no point calling it North Vietnam IS THERE

Get a clue dude.

[Ronin4hire]

Originally Posted by MMM

Ronin said in the end Vietnam won and the US lost, and I am saying I doubt the South Vietnamese fighting the North Vietnamese would agree with that assessment.

There is no South Vietnam. You lose. Thanks for playing.

I mean I'm sure that there are some Vietnamese out there who don't think much of the current regime. Just like there are guys in the US who call themselves Confederates. But in a political context there is absolutely nothing wrong with saying (North) Vietnam won USA lost.

[Ronin4hire]

Originally Posted by Kozyra

MMM , See this comment :

You are not neutral.

Haha.. good call.

[GoNative]

Originally Posted by MMM

That is not what Dogsbody said at all. Not even close to what she said.

I do not like the direction this thread is going. We are not going to solve a conflict that has been going on for decades. For JF's sake, I think it best to set aside.

Conflicts in that part of the middle east have been going on for a little more than just decades! Certainly giving the Jews a homeland there after WWII hasn't exactly calmed things down at all

[dogsbody70]

i am not an expert on the situations--but tell me, where exactly are the palestinians supposed to live, but in palestine.


isn't it time that proper arrangements were made for those palestinians.

it is a small country----and if any jewish person can choose to live in israel-- how many can reasonably be accommodated---there is not space for all of them. common sense tells us that.

[dogsbody70]

Originally Posted by GoNative

Conflicts in that part of the middle east have been going on for a little more than just decades! Certainly giving the Jews a homeland there after WWII hasn't exactly calmed things down at all

its one thing giving the jews their own land--but imagine if every christian also moved to one country on this earth--it would be over crowded.


it is biblical--and really based on what the old testament wrote.

[evanny]

Originally Posted by dogsbody70

--but imagine if every christian also moved to one country on this earth--it would be over crowded.

i imagine it would be awesome if they did that. best thing to ever happen.
also.there is 1 billion christians including those who "sort of" believe. Chinese are 1.3 billion and they manage all right.

[samurai007]

Originally Posted by dogsbody70

i am not an expert on the situations--but tell me, where exactly are the palestinians supposed to live, but in palestine.


isn't it time that proper arrangements were made for those palestinians.

it is a small country----and if any jewish person can choose to live in israel-- how many can reasonably be accommodated---there is not space for all of them. common sense tells us that.

Well, if they could be peaceful, they could live in Israel. Many Arabs and Muslims live in Israel right now.

If they don't like that, Israel has agreed to give them Gaza and the West Bank, so long as Hamas and other terrorist groups don't use the land to stage attacks against Israel.

Finally, they could go to Jordan, or any other country. I mention Jordan, though, because the British Palestine mandate was divided by the UN, with 10% being set aside as a Jewish homeland, and 90% being set aside as a Muslim homeland, called Trans-Jordan at the time. The Arabs kicked most of the Jews off their 90% share and told them "Go live in Israel, we don't want you here." Many of the Muslims living in the 10% Israeli share stayed, and became citizens of Israel. Some of them chose to leave their homes though, either because they didn't want to live in the Jewish state, or because they felt the Arabs would destroy Israel as soon as it was created and didn't want to be caught in the crossfire. Sure enough, the Arabs did attack as soon as Israel was declared a state, but to the surprise of the Palestinians, Israel won. And Trans-Jordan said "we don't want to take in all you refugees." Well, it's about time they or other Arab states do just that, IMO.

[Kozyra]

Originally Posted by samurai007

Well, if they could be peaceful, they could live in Israel. Many Arabs and Muslims live in Israel right now.

If they don't like that, Israel has agreed to give them Gaza and the West Bank, so long as Hamas and other terrorist groups don't use the land to stage attacks against Israel.

Finally, they could go to Jordan, or any other country. I mention Jordan, though, because the British Palestine mandate was divided by the UN, with 10% being set aside as a Jewish homeland, and 90% being set aside as a Muslim homeland, called Trans-Jordan at the time. The Arabs kicked most of the Jews off their 90% share and told them "Go live in Israel, we don't want you here." Many of the Muslims living in the 10% Israeli share stayed, and became citizens of Israel. Some of them chose to leave their homes though, either because they didn't want to live in the Jewish state, or because they felt the Arabs would destroy Israel as soon as it was created and didn't want to be caught in the crossfire. Sure enough, the Arabs did attack as soon as Israel was declared a state, but to the surprise of the Palestinians, Israel won. And Trans-Jordan said "we don't want to take in all you refugees." Well, it's about time they or other Arab states do just that, IMO.

First, there are million and half million refugees in Jordan despite that the Jordanian government doesn't deal positively with the refugees.
There are about 4 million Palestinian refugees in the world and they make up about 70% of the Palestinian people, those Palestinians Had been expelled by Israeli occupation since 1948 and until now, and Israel today demolished Palestinian houses and not so long ago Israel army killed about 15 Palestinians in Gaza, while Hamas rockets Did not kill any man in Israel, as I know.
Israel doesn't want peace , Israel will dominate the West Bank through settlements and the continued arrests and the destruction of Palestinian homes, and will control the Gaza Strip through the war, Israel wants to dominate the land between the Nile and Euphrates rivers, this is their plan, and will not live the Arabs Safely in their own land as long as the occupation exists.