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[Ronin4hire]

Originally Posted by Kozyra

In the Koran:
" Sajda " , in verse 5 says God the Almighty:
((seed from heaven to earth and then ascend to Him in a Day is a thousand years of your reckoning))
Dr. Muhammad reached the limits to the speed of light in the Koran:
There is a general rule in physics states that
Any object speed = distance / time.
Time = Time on Ground = 86164.09966 seconds
Distance = the amount of a thousand years of the march of the moon lunar cycle = 12 000
Galaxy, a distance traveled by the moon in the orbit of an isolated
= 12000 × average orbital speed of the moon × time of the lunar month
= 12000 × 368207 × 0. 89157 × 655. 7198395
Thus, the distance = 25.83134723 one billion km
And the application of the equation:
By dividing the distance number (25831347230 km) on the number of time (86164.09966 seconds) to be equal to the speed of light = 299,792.458 km / sec

What a ridiculuous equation. First of all the passage in the Qu'ran makes no mention of the moon.

Second of all.. the speed of light has already been discovered... so all this "doctor" has done is come up with an equation that gives a similar result, using variables that are not even referred to or have no relevance whatsoever.

[Kozyra]

Originally Posted by Ronin4hire

What a ridiculuous equation. First of all the passage in the Qu'ran makes no mention of the moon.

Second of all.. the speed of light has already been discovered... so all this "doctor" has done is come up with an equation that gives a similar result, using variables that are not even referred to or have no relevance whatsoever.

The important thing that it is in the Quran .

[Kozyra]

I have told you about the three letters_ (ALM)_ at Sura number two,The scientists have used the electronic Quran , this electronic Quran show you how many times that the specific letter appeared in the considered sura , they saw that the most letters appeared in the sura number two and its name: '' Albaqara'' or '' the cow '', are (ALM ) , _And the number of its' pages is : 49_ , and in the same ordinal :
"A" appeared : 4592 time .
"L" appeared : 3204 time .
"M" appeared : 2195 time.

And this isn't by chance , because this is in all suras in Quran , I mean that the same thing happened in Sura Number three "Al Omran " ,and the number of its' pages is : 25 , it starts with (ALM ) too , and the electronic Quran shows you this result :
"A" appeared : 2578 time.
"L" appeared : 1885 time.
"M"appeared : 1251 time.
and it shows you that this letters are the most letters appeared in this Sura.
The same thing happened in the Sura number 13 : " AlRaad " or "Al Thunder ", it starts with ( ALMR ) , and the electronic Quran shows you this result :
''A'' appeared : 652 time.
''L'' appeared : 479 time.
''M'' appeared: 260 time.
''R'' appeared : 137 time.
and it shows you that this letters are the most letters appeared in this Sura.
The same thing at the Sura number 29 , " Al spider " or " Al Ankabout " , it starts with : (ALM) , and the electronic Quran shows you this result :
''A'' appeared : 785 time.
''L'' appeared : 554 time.
''M'' appeared : 344 time.
and it shows you that this letters are the most letters appeared in this Sura.
The same thing at the Sura number 30, it starts with (ALM) , and the electronic Quran shows you this result :
''A'' appeared : 547 time.
''L'' appeared : 396 time.
''M'' appeared : 318 time.
The same thing at all suras in the holey Quran which starts with words ..
Don't strain yourself , don't try to count the letters , because you can't !!!!!!! ,You must have a computer, and then buy an electronic Quran ...
there was no computer before 1400 years old .......
The man who discovered that Miracle is called " Rshad khalifa " and the name of his book : (Miracle of the Quran ) (Islamic Productions international in St.Louis mo )
This book is available in the United states , and in Europe too , and this book in English not in Arabic .
I'm not stupid, and anyone can be able to verify their validity.

[GoNative]

Please stop. You are just proving why anyone who believes in fairytales like gods must be a nutcase...

[Kozyra]

Originally Posted by GoNative

Please stop. You are just proving why anyone who believes in fairytales like gods must be a nutcase...

I do not impose my opinion on you, you are free, consider it as a personal culture or information .

[Ronin4hire]

Originally Posted by Kozyra

The important thing that it is in the Quran .

It's not in the Quran. Some guy just took the variables of a Quran passage (1000 years), added the moon and worked out some bogus equation which happened to come out to being the close to the speed of light.

I mean if the speed of light wasn't already known via other measurements and calculations.. this equation would have no relevance whatsoever.

[Kozyra]

Originally Posted by Ronin4hire

It's not in the Quran. Some guy just took the variables of a Quran passage (1000 years), added the moon and worked out some bogus equation which happened to come out to being the close to the speed of light.

I mean if the speed of light wasn't already known via other measurements and calculations.. this equation would have no relevance whatsoever.

Arabs reckon the days by the lunar calendar, and until now they use it .
that is the meaning of " your reckoning " in the Qur'an .

[Ronin4hire]

Originally Posted by Kozyra

Arabs reckon the days by the lunar calendar, and until now they use it .

A day has nothing to do with the moon. It's about the rotation of the Earth upon its axis.

The Lunar calendar consists of days obviously... but that's about the only connection you can really make.

Also the Quran passage in question mentions only one day compared to a thousand years.

One day has nothing to do with a lunar cycle.

[Kozyra]

Originally Posted by Ronin4hire

A day has nothing to do with the moon. It's about the rotation of the Earth upon its axis.

The Lunar calendar consists of days obviously... but that's about the only connection you can really make.

Also the Quran passage in question mentions only one day compared to a thousand years.

One day has nothing to do with a lunar cycle.

-What do you mean ? no there is something called Lunar calendar and there is something called Lunar months ..... you don't know it ?

[GoNative]

Originally Posted by Kozyra

I do not impose my opinion on you, you are free, consider it as a personal culture or information .

Maybe I should have said please stop attempting to legitimise your fairytale with making it seem as though there's some sort of science to it.

Basically believing in a god is similar to believing in Santa Claus. He performs miracles. He must know something about the speed of light and relativity to be able to deliver billions of presents in a night. Billions of children have claimed to have seen him (I was one of them). And he also cares about our morals and is all knowing as he really does know if we've been naughty or nice. Like most children eventually realise it was all a hoax I would like to think that most rational people out there will also come to realise the hoax of religions. Unfortunately it seems there's a lot of people who are not overly rational...