UN-NATO attack on Libya

[Sinestra]

Originally Posted by Kozyra

hehehe......
yeah true , They can be easily destroy Gaddafi, but they need to so-called "international legitimacy", in order to deceive the peoples of the world, as they did in Iraq

Only people who can not think for themselves are subject to being deceived. It does not take endless amounts of brain power to deduce what has and probably will happen again. Only people with narrow vision and short sightedness can reduce this situation into black and white scenario when there's a shit load of gray mixed in.

[termogard]

Originally Posted by Kozyra

hehehe......
yeah true , They can be easily destroy Gaddafi, but they need to so-called "international legitimacy", in order to deceive the peoples of the world, as they did in Iraq

Yep.

I'd prefer to see MANPAD devices in Libya, as many as possible. After strikes of Tomohawks NATO will use tactical bombers to attack mobile units of libyan armed forces. It's a time to gain a harvest!

[Kozyra]

Originally Posted by Sinestra

Only people who can not think for themselves are subject to being deceived. It does not take endless amounts of brain power to deduce what has and probably will happen again. Only people with narrow vision and short sightedness can reduce this situation into black and white scenario when there's a shit load of gray mixed in.

These people who have a narrow vision, deceived by what is said officially by the governments of the world, and the only way to know the truth is to view reality and finding the right targets for these governments .
Governments became the place to control the minds of the people, because the reality is different from what is being said, yes it may be for the benefit of the peoples, but it may be conflicting with the principles of humanity

[Sinestra]

Originally Posted by Kozyra

principles of humanity

Ones vision of the principles of humanity can differ from person to person and country and country. For example, im pretty sure a Muslim's view will differ from a say a Hindu or Christians view of humanity. Like i said there is a lot of Grey area in not only this conflict but many others its not just black and white. Those people i like to call them "sheep" exist in every country. The faithful leading the unfaithful, the blind leading the deaf ect ect. A lot of people chose not to think for themselves its easier the world is an ugly yet equally beautiful place but most choose to live in blissful ignorance, not just Americans but all over the world.

[Ryzorian]

Kozyra; Not everyone is decieved by governments. I know why they are there and it's got nothing to do with "saveing civilians", that's just pretext for dismantleing Gadafi's army. The real problem is that the "democractic" movement is mostly Muslim brotherhood wackadoos and I trust them less than Gadaffi.

All these "democratic" upriseings all going off around the middle east at once, highly suspicious. Something else is afoot here and I think it will have far more dagerous results for the west than people realize.

[Kozyra]

There are some problems in my country now

[Kozyra]

I think that people walking in the wrong way, and this cost them dearly in the present and the future

[Ryzorian]

Kozyra; keep yourself safe then, things like that can get out of hand very quickly. I personally think something much larger than each individual country is going on..

[Kozyra]

Oh My God !!! There are people have been killed here !!

[TalnSG]

Originally Posted by Ryzorian

Kozyra; Not everyone is decieved by governments. I know why they are there and it's got nothing to do with "saveing civilians", that's just pretext for dismantleing Gadafi's army. The real problem is that the "democractic" movement is mostly Muslim brotherhood wackadoos and I trust them less than Gadaffi.

All these "democratic" upriseings all going off around the middle east at once, highly suspicious. Something else is afoot here and I think it will have far more dagerous results for the west than people realize.

Between this theory and our resident Russian's ranting about the greedy westerners, another possibility came to mind and it would contribute to a justification for Russia's absentention in the UN.

The nation with the most to gain from disorder and destruction in the oil fields of Libya is Russia.

Libyan oil comprises less than 5% of the U.S. oil trade, so it doesn't really impact the U.S. directly. But Russia has been trading heavily in oil futures in Geneva of late and to knock their competitors out of the market, even temporarily, at the hands of others, is an amazingly "lucky" turn of events for them.

And when it comes to greed, how about the idea of a single company buying the entire port of Murmansk? Now that is greed. At least we buy out others product, not set up major ports as private enterprises.