What do you think you will find in japan

[SHAD0W]

Originally Posted by RealJames

The internet is far too unreliable, I follow BJL on twitter. Very informative.

Only when combined with what we know from uncyclopedia and encyclopedia dramatica. Only then can we truely understand.

[JuanOne]

Originally Posted by GoNative

You should know that Japan is little, if anything, like you seem to think it is. It is not overly strong anymore. The economy of Japan has been contracting for around 20 years now. Japan has the highest debt to GDP ratio of pretty much any developed nation on the planet. Few companies are really making all that much money. It has the worst outlook of an aging population of any nation on the planet. Basically the country is currently going broke. They can only keep borrowing and printing more money for so long before everything will come crashing down. Some pretty big changes are required to really get this country competitive again. There is a lot of resistance to change though

Maybe I was not clear enough, I answered to "What do you think you will find in Japan ?" as if I were unaware of what you're talking about. I replied as a french "wanna-leave-my-country-for-Japan" dude, not as I was asked the question

I know how does work the japanese economy, I made several studies when I was working in a french Chamber of Commerce, it's a fragile balance, your post could not be more accurate

Originally Posted by GoNative

Benefit from the best technology on earth? Well maybe in the big cities there is a fair amount of technology. For those of us who live in more rural Japan to be honest some places seem to me to have advanced little from what it was like in the west in about the 1950's. I have worked with many Japanese people over the years who had no idea of how to use an internet search engine like google!! Hardly anywhere takes credit cards. ATM's close on public holidays!! I mean really why do ATM's require to have days off as well??Maybe it's just because I'm up on inaka island but seriously Japan may make a lot of technology but it doesn't seem to me that many here use it all that much. Unless you think keitais are what technology is all about!

LOL

Honestly, I rolled under my desk when I read "ATM's close on public holidays!! I mean really why do ATM's require to have days off as well??"

Once again, I was trying to figure out the japanese "phantasm" based on what media provide

Originally Posted by GoNative

Happy? Not sure about that one. I think there's just as many unhappy people in Japan as anywhere else. A large portion of the male population work in jobs where they work around 80 hours a week. It is expected they put the company ahead of family. This wouldn't make me overly happy I can tell you!!

Ok, look, how do you consider french people ? Maybe I'm wrong, but we are pompous/mood swinging/romantic according to you. Let's say you'd be 66% right

These are clichés but they are so spread that they may become truth for uninformed people

Originally Posted by GoNative

Where do you get your ideas about this country from? Anime and manga??

I get ideas from liable sources, people willing to live in Japan may get theirs from anime and mangas, yes indeed !

[RickOShay]

Originally Posted by BobbyCooper

How can I get disaopointed if I already know who they are? I've spend 6 months only traveling with Asians from Japanese to Koreans to Chinese people and lived with these poeple on the smallest places and even had the most intense realationship I ever had with a girl from Thailand.

I know that they are very different and this is what makes me feel attached to these lovely people. everywhere there are black sheeps and perhaps I was just lucky meeting the most lovely Asians you could ever met. Just luck? Impossible!!!

Asians are that way and they might not scream at you or tell you that they don't like you right in your face or discriminate you like Western would do. They might built up a facade behind there face just to save there face. And this is where it all starts. This is an attribute which is not negative at all throughout my eyes. The way Western handle those situations are a lot more negative to me, but thats because I am different, thats the reason why I feel that I belong in this society and not here. I just happen to be born here, thats all!

I won't ever be disapointed when I visit Japan or Korea cause I already know what I will experience. MAybe I am just compeltely ignorant in your mind, however I know what I experienced and I know what to expect. I do know that!

Dude, you are like ignorant of your ignorance, that is astounding. You think that you have all of Asia figured out after just 6 months, and spending time with just a few people? Think about it, are you really all that knowledgable? The things you keep on saying, just makes me feel, like the other posters, is you are going to be hugely disappointed when you realize your assumptions are very wrong about Japanese society, I'm not talking about the rest of Asia because I do not presume to know about places that I have never lived, sure I have/have had Chinese/Korean friends/acquaintances but I do not feel that makes me an expert on Chinese or Korean culture, I do dare say I know a thing or two more than the average person about Japan though since I have spent 7 years of my life here and interacted with probably 1000s of Japanese by this time.

In any case I will point out one thing you will be in a shock for... you think asians do not discriminate.. I guess you have never seen any "Japanese Only" signs..www.debito.org: THE ROGUE'S GALLERY: Photos of places which refuse non-Japanese in Japan.. now I do not particularly like this guy and think he is kind of a d-bag about what he does.. but this is a very comprehensive collection you might want to look at, and maybe revise your position a bit.

Perhaps I misunderstood what you said earlier.. I thought by saying you wanted to be Asian.. that you wanted become a citizen of xxx asian country and assimilate into society. But if you want to just exist in Japanese society that is fine, you can do that, but make no mistake, you will not be able to assimilate, you will not be treated the same as everyone else. You understand this right? Because it sounds to me like you think that you will accomplish something more.. somehow find your perfect place in the world in Japan, even though everyone else will see you as out of place.

[dogsbody70]

for those with their dream--who Do venture to japan--do come back and let us know whether your hopes were fulfilled and why.

my japanese friend will never be really open and honest about her feelings. i never know what she really thinks, She was brought up in the group system both at school and at work. I wonder when one hears the honest truth from people who hide their true feelings.

[RealJames]

Originally Posted by dogsbody70

I wonder when one hears the honest truth from people who hide their true feelings.

In my experience it varies greatly from person to person, but generally much much longer that westerners (which sometimes happen before knowing their name lol).
If you wait a little to open up too, it might mean more to the friend, and then might be reciprocated, in time.

[tokusatsufan]

Originally Posted by SHAD0W

Only when combined with what we know from uncyclopedia and encyclopedia dramatica. Only then can we truely understand.

No,you don't "learn" things from uncyclopedia. Encyclopedia dramatica maybe but it's still dubious. Uncyclopedia might be fun to read but at the end of they day it's just a big joke. TV Tropes is educational. People hardly ever lie on Wikipedia. IMDb can be full of shit excuse my french.

[RobinMask]

I originally was rather interested in this thread, but it's amazing how something can descend into an argument so quickly . . . The last three or four pages seem so negative that it's rather depressing :P

[dogsbody70]

Originally Posted by RealJames

In my experience it varies greatly from person to person, but generally much much longer that westerners (which sometimes happen before knowing their name lol).
If you wait a little to open up too, it might mean more to the friend, and then might be reciprocated, in time.

hi james-- known her for three years now-- she was born in 1942 so had quite a tough time.

[dogsbody70]

Originally Posted by tokusatsufan

No,you don't "learn" things from uncyclopedia. Encyclopedia dramatica maybe but it's still dubious. Uncyclopedia might be fun to read but at the end of they day it's just a big joke. TV Tropes is educational. People hardly ever lie on Wikipedia. IMDb can be full of shit excuse my french.

i have a feeling that comment was tongue in cheek.

[Lien]

Originally Posted by RobinMask

I originally was rather interested in this thread, but it's amazing how something can descend into an argument so quickly . . . The last three or four pages seem so negative that it's rather depressing :P

It is indeed :3 Can't people just share their opinion ? It seems that we aren't allowed to like Japan anymore ... Maybe some should make an anti-Japan forum, might feel a bit more comfortable there ?