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06-27-2011, 04:47 PM

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Look, I'm normally not one to openly discuss this kind of topic because I don't like to portray any stereotypes either. Something many people wishing to come to Japan can't seem to realize that if they're unattractive, socially awkward, nerdy, or any combination of the three, they're not going to have any more success in Japan than they would back home.

However, if you're a mildly attractive to good looking foreigner in Japan, there is no denying that you will probably have better success rates than back home, and this is for two reasons. The first is, well, we're different, like everyone else said. The second reason is, because for some reason a lot of guys who come to Asia lose their shame, so they're much more likely to hit on the cute Japanese girl working at the bar than they would the white girl working at the bar back home. Being different and having no shame is a double threat. It's a numbers game. The more girls you ask, the more likely one will say yes.

To be frank, I'm decent looking enough. I'm not Brad Pitt by any means, but I've never really had a hard time talking to/going out with girls back home. With that said, I would never get scouted by some modeling agency or anything like that back home. But since I've been in Japan, I got offered to work for a modeling agency (a legitimate one) and although I turned it down, a friend of mine took the same company up on the offer and it's not gotten to the point where they're doing travel arrangements for him to do photoshoots, and he's just a Joe from Arkansas. I have another friend with a similar story (from Indiana.) And if people are willing to put us in advertisements, there's got to be more to it than what's in our heads.
Can't say I disagree, but have it occur to you that you are being scouted because you may fit a certain description of an ad that they need? I am guessing maybe a description of "White dude that look professional". I am more average than anyone can possibly imagine, but I actually got a couple of ad screening myself too simply because they need a professional looking asian guy....
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06-27-2011, 04:57 PM

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Can't say I disagree, but have it occur to you that you are being scouted because you may fit a certain description of an ad that they need? I am guessing maybe a description of "White dude that look professional". I am more average than anyone can possibly imagine, but I actually got a couple of ad screening myself too simply because they need a professional looking asian guy....
They wanted me with with a Japanese haircut and shirtless, hence why I turned it down. Not really like the typical "wear a business suit and look like you're doing something important" photo shoot. My friend, like I said, took the same agency up on the offer and now I get to lol at the photos on Facebook.

Edit: I should add that it's also like a tenured modeling agency, so they weren't looking for just a one time deal.


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06-27-2011, 05:22 PM

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Funny thing is, I wonder if the girls I talk to "pretend" to be more traditional or if these "Caucasian" groups are just talking to a different group of girls.

Most of the girls I spoke with are not open to the idea of just getting physical with a Caucasian because they are different. Their interest are only in the mind and cultural difference

According to the people that I talk to, the ones that will just openly jump in the arms of a forienger are girls that get around enough that the local don't want to touch them, not even if they stand naked in front of them.....
Before the Internet and the shrunken world we live in things like blonde hair and afros really were things you could only see on TV or magazines. Now with the Internet and the sheer volume of foreigners visiting and living in Japan, the novelty of a foreigner has faded to the point that the girls that got excited about things like silky blonde hair are now in their 40s and 50s and beyond.
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06-27-2011, 06:51 PM

being an american-born Japanese I only know english and that's all i'll speak..I really dont care to learn japanese..and I don't date asian, black or any other types..I've always dated white guys since that's all there is where I live.

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06-28-2011, 02:38 AM

I can't afford to go to Japan anyhow so I don't have a horse in this race.
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07-11-2011, 04:41 AM

I understand how you felt with "the stares".

When I was in Japan, crowds of women would stare, following me wherever I went -- cheering, highfiving, and whistling at me saying "come here white boy"

It was terrible so I decided to go back home to the United States where I can be ignored by all women again and I feel great!

::edit: I suppose i SHOULD put something worthwhile in here. lol On a serious note about the staring: Maybe they liked you, maybe they hated you, maybe they were just curious, maybe they wanted to go on a date with you (NOT sex as was previously alluded too in other posts), or maybe..they DID want to have sex with you. If you don't try to introduce yourself, smile, wave, show any kind of interest then you'll never know. Men are afraid to approach women in America and don't get anywhere (hey i'm with you i'm afraid of women they ARE scary i.e. pointed teeth, long claws, etc you know what im saying) and you probably won't get too far with a Japanese girl you like in Japan since they probably won't come up and initiate a conversation with you (besides they are probably shy about their anglish anyway)

There ARE a lot of probablys in that last paragraph though so there is a small chance I probably don't have any idea what im talking about

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07-11-2011, 06:23 AM

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I highly doubt that the stare means they like you.

Foreigners stands out in Japan because they look different. Its the same stare we get when there weren't that many asian immigrants in North America.

People look at you because you look different.....

this is a common thing in china too ...when i was in china they stare at me like i am a demon ...
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07-11-2011, 09:01 AM

rare > want to see > fights against the instinct
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07-11-2011, 12:57 PM

Woah woah... what I'm getting from the posts here is that it's REALLY easy to just find a Japanese girl who'll go on a date straight away with any random foreigner.
I thought it would be a LOT harder than what most people seem to be saying... what about the language barrier? Japanese with self respect? Well maybe self respect is the wrong phrase to use... but maybe caution?
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07-11-2011, 02:10 PM

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I understand how you felt with "the stares".

When I was in Japan, crowds of women would stare, following me wherever I went -- cheering, highfiving, and whistling at me saying "come here white boy"
LOL that is such a mental thing to do! ''Come here white boy''? In broken English?! You should have said ''Stop trying to act white!'' Did you see what they looked like? I'm guessing they were really nothing to write home about?!
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