The Africans in Roppongi and Kabukicho

[tokusatsufan]

Originally Posted by ryuurui

lolz yeah and i watched programme about king snake cobra and it lookede so snuglicious, no idea why people are so concenred about it

That's not a proper answer.

[Fr3sh]

Originally Posted by MMM

I suppose if you were racist and weren't able to paint a race with such broad strokes it might.

No I know what you mean....but what about the Japanese people that have NEVER seen black people except the ones they see on TV and on Roppongi. Wouldn't they quickly stereotype black people in general?

P.S
I'm asking this because I'm black myself and I'm curious about this a bit.

[JohnBraden]

I wonder if the Japanese receive e-mails from Ghana and Nigeria asking them to fork over thousands of dollars (Yen, in this case) to be able to claim millions from an anonymous prince there.... Perhaps banking laws are stricter in Japan and the transfer of monies is more regulated than in the States. But I bet more than the fair share of Americans have been duped by Nigerians and Ghanians regarding those e-mails. And maybe it has to do with greed in the States and not so much in Japan? If people from those countries appear to have a bad reputation, it's mostly because of that, in my eyes.

I did run into a few Nigerians, but it was in Ikebukuro. I didn't trust them one bit and I just spoke Spanish to them and they quickly left me alone....

[MMM]

Originally Posted by Fr3sh

No I know what you mean....but what about the Japanese people that have NEVER seen black people except the ones they see on TV and on Roppongi. Wouldn't they quickly stereotype black people in general?

P.S
I'm asking this because I'm black myself and I'm curious about this a bit.

Do these guys bother Japanese people? It is my understanding that they target foreigners.

[WingsToDiscovery]

Originally Posted by MMM

Do these guys bother Japanese people? It is my understanding that they target foreigners.

I see them going after Japanese all the time. I'd say a very strong majority of the time, like 80 percent or more.

With someone like myself it's hit or miss. Because I wear fitted caps (and a lot of them specialize in Hip Hop style), sometimes they'll try and peddle me the same style hats for more than double what I would pay in America. But other times they'll ignore me for that same reason because they know that I know how much their products are actually worth. This is why they target the Japanese more. For a foreigner vacationing in Japan, if they're interested in the hip hop style, they know what the prices are for the goods. And if they're only going to be there for 1-2 weeks, most people wouldn't buy the stuff for double or triple price. But the Japanese don't have places like the LIDS store where they can get these goods, and they don't really know what the products go for in America. I'll flip through men's style magazines and be shocked at what the Japanese are paying for the kinds of stuff the Nigerians are selling.

[tokusatsufan]

Originally Posted by JohnBraden

I wonder if the Japanese receive e-mails from Ghana and Nigeria asking them to fork over thousands of dollars (Yen, in this case) to be able to claim millions from an anonymous prince there.... Perhaps banking laws are stricter in Japan and the transfer of monies is more regulated than in the States.

I expect so,it doesn't happen so much here I don't think.

[siokan]

sleep robber
Smuggling of drug
Sales of drug
Smuggling of arms
marriage fraud
Sales of counterfeit credit card
Rape
rip-off@credit card

The ability that sniffs danger and the speed from which it runs away are first‐class.

Three people who live in Kanagawa Prefecture and ・・・・・・ of embassy ‥
oh, the telephone rang.

[Sangetsu]

Originally Posted by siokan

sleep robber
Smuggling of drug
Sales of drug
Smuggling of arms
marriage fraud
Sales of counterfeit credit card
Rape
rip-off@credit card

The ability that sniffs danger and the speed from which it runs away are first‐class.

Three people who live in Kanagawa Prefecture and ・・・・・・ of embassy ‥
oh, the telephone rang.

This is what a lot of Japanese people think when they see Nigerians or other black Africans. Sadly, the things listed above occur quite commonly, and make life more difficult for those good people who work hard and play by the rules.

Any bar or shop which uses Nigerian hustlers to bring in customers is controlled by what the Japanese call "anti-social forces", known to us as the Yakuza.

The yaks bring the Nigerians over and get them married to women who work in yak-owned hostess clubs or brothels (known here as "soapland" or massage parlors). This is the marriage fraud part. The yaks have strong control over everyone who works for them, especially Africans, whom they can have deported at any time. These unfortunates are the leg men in drug deals, extortion, and fraud, and they do the dirty work so the yaks can keep their hands clean if something goes bad and the police get involved.

[Nyororin]

Originally Posted by Sangetsu

This is what a lot of Japanese people think when they see Nigerians or other black Africans. Sadly, the things listed above occur quite commonly, and make life more difficult for those good people who work hard and play by the rules.

Outside of Tokyo and Osaka - I don`t think this is necessarily the case.
There seem to be a fair number of black Africans (well, enough that I have encountered one or two groups of more than 3 people a year) in the Nagoya area... And the image held of them by most people around here tends to be a positive one.

They are considered (very!) friendly, warm, and hardworking people. The image is a pretty good one, really. Being somewhere that the criminal element isn`t so prominent really makes a difference in popular perception.

However, black Africans and African Americans tend to be viewed somewhat differently... Although that may be more to do with attitude and presentation than nationality.

[Fr3sh]

Originally Posted by Sangetsu

This is what a lot of Japanese people think when they see Nigerians or other black Africans. Sadly, the things listed above occur quite commonly, and make life more difficult for those good people who work hard and play by the rules.

It's a shame...I personally "play by the rules" and sometimes have to push a little harder to shed off a few stereotypes and prejudices here in Canada, so I don't think that will be something hard to do in Japan since I already know how to deal with it.

Either ways it's something that most visible minorities have to deal with (not only blacks, arabs in Europe and eastern Canada, aboriginal people in Western Canada, latinos in the US, etc) and that is unfortunately because of a handful of people that do stupid things.