JF - Classy no more

[godwine]

Originally Posted by Nyororin

There is one thing in your original post that I don`t agree with though...
That it is increasing recently. It`s the same as it`s always been - possibly even decreasing as it`s now easier and more common than ever for people to come in contact with real Asian people.

Maybe I hould say increasing number of Post instead. Just that, comparing to when I first joined the forum, I am seeing more retards that ask stupid question about "Japanese girls" lately..

[Kayci]

Originally Posted by godwine

Maybe I hould say increasing number of Post instead. Just that, comparing to when I first joined the forum, I am seeing more retards that ask stupid question about "Japanese girls" lately..

Or boys...its frustrating me cause it makes people who genuinely care about them and such look bad.

[RealJames]

Originally Posted by godwine

Agree James. But I cannot represent the Caucasian, Middle Eastern, South Asian or African (sorry if I missed anyone) crowd. Bottom line is, people like you, who is dating for the right reason worth our repsect, regardless of the race of the girl you are dating

Any guy that date a girl for sex is not acceptable.. and it angers me more when it happen to Asian women because thats my culture...

It's hard for me to say, because it's purely hypothetical, but I imagine that if I were you I would be more disappointed in the members of my own culture who are responsible for half of the travesty.
I myself am disappointed in the majority of western guys I meet here in Japan who are out for an easy lay with someone 10x better looking than they can get back home.
In Canada I was disappointed in the surprising amount of not just Asian but women from many places who preferred dating white men over any other ethnicity, which was quite common yes.
You'd be surprised how much more difficult it is for a Mexican or Persian or Philipino guy to meet an Asian girl in Canada than a white guy.

The yellow fever is so ridiculous just as much as the white fever coming from many parts of Asia.

and just in case it helps get a sense of proportion, only at most 2 or 3% of the guys I know in Canada have any kind of yellow fever, the vast majority are far from being so racist or biased.

[Nyororin]

Originally Posted by godwine

Maybe I hould say increasing number of Post instead. Just that, comparing to when I first joined the forum, I am seeing more retards that ask stupid question about "Japanese girls" lately..

I don`t really think that`s a recent thing either. Those types of posts tend to come in waves - we`ll get a bunch of them for a bit, then they`ll fade away. Right now we have a couple members who are pretty vocal about their sexual desires toward Asian women... So I think it looks worse than it really is.

Or boys...its frustrating me cause it makes people who genuinely care about them and such look bad.

In the end, if the only reason you are with someone is because they are Asian, you`re still going to look bad. Not pointing at you when saying this, but there are some people who think that because they have decided that as they are only attracted to Asian women/men and want to not only have sex with them but to "have a relationship" with them... They are somehow better than anyone else who is sexually attracted to Asians.

I don`t get why people can`t just be attracted to PEOPLE and not race or nationality, but apparently this is not something that they think about. I certainly wouldn`t have turned my nose up at my husband if he had been some other race or nationality.

[Kayci]

Originally Posted by Nyororin

I don`t really think that`s a recent thing either. Those types of posts tend to come in waves - we`ll get a bunch of them for a bit, then they`ll fade away. Right now we have a couple members who are pretty vocal about their sexual desires toward Asian women... So I think it looks worse than it really is.



In the end, if the only reason you are with someone is because they are Asian, you`re still going to look bad. Not pointing at you when saying this, but there are some people who think that because they have decided that as they are only attracted to Asian women/men and want to not only have sex with them but to "have a relationship" with them... They are somehow better than anyone else who is sexually attracted to Asians.

I don`t get why people can`t just be attracted to PEOPLE and not race or nationality, but apparently this is not something that they think about. I certainly wouldn`t have turned my nose up at my husband if he had been some other race or nationality.

Well there are "preferences". Like my friend only dated white men who were blonde. Another friend prefers small brown-eyed girls. I do prefer Asian guys, in the end, but i would gladly date someone else if they had the same personality qualities or such. (I am not sure if I am making sense...)

[godwine]

Originally Posted by RealJames

It's hard for me to say, because it's purely hypothetical, but I imagine that if I were you I would be more disappointed in the members of my own culture who are responsible for half of the travesty.
I myself am disappointed in the majority of western guys I meet here in Japan who are out for an easy lay with someone 10x better looking than they can get back home.
In Canada I was disappointed in the surprising amount of not just Asian but women from many places who preferred dating white men over any other ethnicity, which was quite common yes.
You'd be surprised how much more difficult it is for a Mexican or Persian or Philipino guy to meet an Asian girl in Canada than a white guy.

The yellow fever is so ridiculous just as much as the white fever coming from many parts of Asia.

and just in case it helps get a sense of proportion, only at most 2 or 3% of the guys I know in Canada have any kind of yellow fever, the vast majority are far from being so racist or biased.

Not sure if I understand you fully. Care to elaborate? You mean in my case, I should be upset at Asian who date Caucasian because they are Caucasian? I definitely do get upset at that, my own cousin is like that. He got this thing which makes him think that he is too good for other Asian (While he is a 40 years old bum who doesn't have to pay any income tax because he doesn't make enough to fall in any tax bracket)

Nyorin - I think you know the threads that I am talking about... and the users

[RealJames]

Originally Posted by Kayci

Well there are "preferences". Like my friend only dated white men who were blonde. Another friend prefers small brown-eyed girls. I do prefer Asian guys, in the end, but i would gladly date someone else if they had the same personality qualities or such. (I am not sure if I am making sense...)

what you're saying is seen as borderline.

it's okay to prefer certain physical traits in a purely superficial way if it's not impacting or obfuscating the truth of the matter
the gray area is when those traits are defined as being ethnic (racial)

it clearly crosses the line if someone says something along the lines of;
"I just like Japanese guys more, it's my personal preference, just because they're nicer..."

[Kayci]

Originally Posted by RealJames

what you're saying is seen as borderline.

it's okay to prefer certain physical traits in a purely superficial way if it's not impacting or obfuscating the truth of the matter
the gray area is when those traits are defined as being ethnic (racial)

it clearly crosses the line if someone says something along the lines of;
"I just like Japanese guys more, it's my personal preference, just because they're nicer..."

Okay, I see where you are coming from. The last part makes it so, right? "just because of [/insert random trait that is not racially exclusive here]"

[RealJames]

Originally Posted by Kayci

Okay, I see where you are coming from. The last part makes it so, right? "just because of [/insert random trait that is not racially exclusive here]"

I was thinking more along the lines of;

[/insert random trait that is not superficial like hair color, but that's actually substantial, and try to attribute a mental characteristic to a nation of people while simultaneously placing them above the rest]

[Kayci]

Originally Posted by RealJames

I was thinking more along the lines of;

[/insert random trait that is not superficial like hair color, but that's actually, and try to attribute a mental characteristic to a nation of people while simultaneously placing them above the rest]

AH! Okay. Yeah...I can see thats a problem. I guess since I was considered borderline, it can be seen as an issue...what can I do to prove I am not like that? I mean, yeah, I prefer asian guys, but I do not think they are above all guys. (Just that Johnny Depp is out of my reach. ;]) ((Bad joke.))

On the side, this little pet peeve I have comes up;

People who want to only date Asians do not consider the culture barrier that may be there, or automatically think their culture will top their spouse/SO's culture. That...causes problems.