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09-15-2011, 12:07 AM
For a start, I saw comments on this thread about how no matter what, we mustn't forget 9/11, and to mourn its victims, and how I should be too from the UK. But then I thought, have Americans got a day to mourn the innocent Muslim civilians killed by their US (and other countries too, of course) armies? They're not in the same country, yet if what others have said applies, they should be pulling out the flowers and memorials for Muslim civilians too.
After all, they're fellow humans too, right? But have I seen, and will America, ever do this? I highly doubt it, for reasons I can only guess. The only things that come out of it are Qu'ran burnings and other protests that annoy the Middle East further and cause more deaths. Quote:
What I don't understand is what gives people who have more of an emotional response to 9/11 than people who have little or indeed no response the right to take up a 'holier-than-thou' attitude? As if mourning the event makes them that much better than everyone else? If not on here, then I definitely feel it elsewhere on the internet. I am one of the ones, like you, who never has and never will shed tears. But only because of the simple fact that I'm not emotionally connected to 9/11 one bit. For a start, I'm de-sensitized to death and such, so videos of people falling for the towers do not shock me. I don't know if I should be sorry or not for that, but just in case, I'm sorry. I can't imagine their lives, because I DO NOT know their lives! For all I know, that person falling could be a crack dealer slash serial murderer who got away with it. How can I be shocked about a life I know absolutely nothing about? If that person was a crook, what do I do then?
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09-15-2011, 04:09 AM
Many Americans realize the real threat posed by islam and it's radicals, of wich they all are. Your either a practiceing muslim or are an apostate, they don't have any other option. Even Now the Islamic brotherhood is actively creating a scenario where they can revive the old Ottoman Empire and re establish the Caliphate government. That's your Arab Spring, wich will be winter for the rest of us before long.
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09-15-2011, 07:38 AM
if I remember, the purpose of the 9/11 attacks wasn't just to kill a few Americans,
but to remove the enormous sense of security Americans had on their homeland. by that measure, the media and Americans themselves have contributed more to that fear than the spark of the initial attacks. do people feel safe at home? no why? the attacks why does that fear persist today? not the attacks the war hasn't helped either, in terms of alleviating fear that is
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09-15-2011, 08:25 AM
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09-15-2011, 11:08 AM
It seems that some people on this thread are unable to read what I write, so I rest my case...
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People know damn well what happened and they know it's important to remember. But they also know attending to such ceremonies isn't going to improve anything. Their energy is better spend elsewere. What you focus on expands. If you focus on terrorist attacks or victims you'll get more of that. It may not be in your own country, but you'll get more of it. If you focus on other things, things that are a far more happy experience, you'll get more of that. That is the law of attraction. A better world or stagnation.. the choice is yours.. Heretic, rebel, a thing to flout. But love and I had the wit to win: We drew a circle that took him in.
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09-15-2011, 11:48 AM
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what about all the fantasy war games that kids play-- surely that desensitizes them to reality. why are You desensitised to death? Because we are bombarded daily by the media. I hate all this killing that is happening around the world and the terrible consequences. I hate that we are in IRAQ and Afghanistan. why we get involved in other countries troubles--do we solve any thing at all? What a world we are in. It seems since time began that there have been wars. what is wrong with us all. Greed-- need of Land and Riches. ALL through history this has happened-- it doesn't make me Like any of it. I loathe it. will we ever ever learn? Once we lose feelings of compassion what are we? nothing but total selfish robots. I wonder if some of these young men on here have lost loved ones in conflicts? So often it is women who suffer in the end. What of all those wounded and having to live with it for the rest of their lives. families--trying to survive. We human beings know how to ruin our own planet. Do we deserve it I wonder?
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09-15-2011, 06:17 PM
The fact that we have technology to come to forums like this and voice our frustrations and share our common human experiences should give us reason for optimism and hope for our common future.
9/11 represents a major world event, some people like to mourn, while other like to point out the over reaction that happened after 9/11. OBL actually desired to create rift between US and the Muslim world, as well as make America bankrupt and make it a perpetual and expensive national security state. So in many respects he has succeeded in his goals and in a way the US fell into the very trap he has created to bring the US to its doom. Some people like myself also want to point out the overall geopolitical landscape that spawned the people who were motivated to conduct such a crime. While there is media pandering to some people's emotions and some politicians keep using it as an overused political tool, I take it as an opportunity and use it as a tool to understand the world around us a little better. Everything in this world I believe is in some way connected, nothing happens by accident or out of the blue, it is only our lack of knowledge and information that makes us surprised, angry or emotional. So I urge people to find right sources of information and inform yourselves. This world of ours has a lot of bad, but a lot of good as well. Although we have the weapons to destroy our planet hundreds of times, we still have not done it. Everyone of us has a responsibility, I believe, to work for a better world, than the one we inhabit and there is a lot of work to be done.
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09-16-2011, 01:38 AM
I'm not a "teabagger" Gonative. It's Tea Party, like the ones who told the "red coats" to get lost at Lexington. The ones currently telling the government, "No, they can't spend any more of our money".
MMM; I have read the Koran and the Hadith, I don't speak from ignorance.
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People at my old school/schools don't understand me, my colleagues don't understand me and think I'm weird, my friends including my best friend don't understand me, many people I talk with about large and important issues or spiritual and paranormal things don't understand me. I know exactly why many young people have a completely different look at the world, but I don't know if it's appropriate to say. Anyway, the lack of understanding people towards us is something I've learned to live with.
