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09-12-2011, 02:29 PM
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China has many benefits but it also has all the problems of most economic powerhouse multiplied because of its population and size. China's greatest strength is also its biggest hindrance. Imo there i feel in the next 100 years the superpower will be redundant countries are becoming so intertwined with each other it will impossible to undo just like the relationship between the US and China. China needs to learn how to produce thinkers and innovators not people who just memorize material which is the learning standard in China lots of exams and test on memorization but it does teach how to think. Innovation and getting people out of poverty is the key.  
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09-12-2011, 08:41 PM
Eh, this doesn't bother me at all. China becomes strong, asserts itself by picking fight with US. US get's knocked to ground, get's back up, angery and motivated to again Dominate world.
It's what's leapfroged us repeatedly since we were founded. The US needs somebody to motivate them, otherwise they just laze along. The US is a continant surounded by two oceans. It is a connected continant with one base lanquage and governmental system. No matter how weak it may appear, those key factors will allways allow it to build and dominate very quickly. Just like WW2, many depression closed factories were opened and those shut down car plants started building tanks, planes and bombs enmass. Japan learned the hard way that the US is not a country you want to motivate agressively. Now yes, I do agree that the WTO and Nafta got to go, that's the first thing. Repeal those and China sinks back into oblivion.
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09-12-2011, 09:13 PM
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People become thinkers and innovators, how? They have a good upbringing when they grow up, food, nutrition, education etc., and they have time to contemplate on issues and problems to look for solutions. Chinese and Indians like all people will have plenty of this human characteristic as they move up the ladder in their social evolution. Japanese, Koreans and Taiwanese are good examples of this process.
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09-12-2011, 09:32 PM
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Will the US wake up before that, I am convinced they will not, because the 2% elite that has bought up US political class and SCOTUS, is with the Chinese and Indians in this game, though they themselves cannot understand their self destructive behavior, believing in a naive benign brotherly love of humanity and thinking that their billions will buy them happiness where ever they are on the globe, Singapore, Beijing or Mumbai. After the fall of the Soviets, for two decades the US helped China and India to gain the upper hand. Since 9/11 it has wasted $ 5 trillion and engaged in a new endless crusade that still continues. So that alienates a fourth of the global population. All this while the Billionaires continue to make ever more billions and cheer lead the US to its doom. The US is screwed.
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09-13-2011, 03:20 AM
I agree the elite 2% are complete morons, but anyone who tries to cow tow the US will be destroyed. Americans are just that way about it. The masses will replace the idiot 2% who bow to somebody with someone who will kick ass and take names. China isn't stupid they know Americans would destroy anyone they felt threatened thier position. Not many country's out there obsess about being #1 like the US does.
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09-13-2011, 08:27 AM
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The EU wasn't formed until 1993. The EEC had been around for a few decades before then but it was a very different and far looser body, more NAFTA than the modern EU. In the 80s most European countries still had a major independant streak and there was nobody who thought of them as one body the way many do today. I totally 100% disagree that China has an unlimited supply of cheap labour. The entire point of what the Chinese government is doing is trying to make China richer, the Chinese people want an improved quality of life, they want to live like westerners. For this they need higher wages. Already you can see problems emerging from this in China as companies are beginning to move inland, away from the expensive coastal cities to the poorer inland cities. China has a choice- get rich and lose out on being the world's source of cheap labour or continue being the place for cheap labour and continue being poor. I don't think it takes a genius to guess which one China is going for. China's population gives it some advantages yes. It also however brings it a lot of disadvantages. Its a lot easier to drag a few million people out of poverty and create a stable developed nation with them than to do the same with a billion. Hell, there aren't enough resources in the world for the whole of China as it currently stands to be as rich as the west or Japan- IMO this is going to have to wait a good century or so when China's population has halved.
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09-13-2011, 01:25 PM
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Innovation is what brings a country wealth in the long run. China is not very innovative its very good at copying others. Even many of China's elite state that the school system there is a problem they dont teach you how to think they teach you how to memorize. Innovation bring patents and eventually industry behind that patent and once the industry is formed jobs are produced. For example the purpose of grade school education is to give you the tools to comprehend material reading, math, history ect. The purpose of Higher education University level is to teach you "how to think" Japan has the same problem lots of memorization but they dont teach you how to think. Now the Japanese are naturally inventive so they are very innovative which has bee part of their rise. You can be human all you want but if you are told to learn how to memorize since you were child thats what you will do thats how you were taught.Food and Nutrion is basic form of life and upbringing so im not sure how that relevant to my discussion on Innovation and thinking independently. China will not lord over the US it wont happen and its not me be some psycho US all the way person. I have traveled and lived many different countries. China has a long way to go do i see them as equal partner to the US eventually yes i do. But Americans by their core nature because of history will never accept some presiding over them like a king or queen. We are very tenacious and tend to put our individual problems when we are faced with a common problem we have done so many times before. Quote:
Trust me when i tell you this if there is one thing the US will always spend money on its futuristic weapons to keep this country safe. This goes back to innovation again the US is one of the leaders when it comes to developing new military weapons. China for example debut a video of its newest gen fighter last year. After looking at the footage experts found out that there was no new fighter and the video was excerpts the movie Top Gun  . China claims they have a carrier killer missile. Now im not going to go into full detail it will take too long. I will just say this no country on the planet has a system so accurate and stealth that a missile that can bypass a carrier fleet including all the frigates, battleships, aerial interceptors (fighters and missiles) and a number of other counter measures trust me its not happening. China is outfitting its first Carrier an old Russian now its just for practice and China will indeed have Carriers in the future but they dont have the infrastructure nor the knowledge of building super carriers and how to run them. Carriers is what allows a nation to project its military might across the globe. China is still working on catching up to the US the US is already working on Sea Based drones (predators) that can be launched from air craft carriers can stay in the air for over 24 hours and can fly hundreds of miles from the carrier. China does not even have a drone program yet. This is just 5% of what i could tell you about. gentle persuasion doesnt work against the US and hammer would only enrage the country not a good idea. China's allies they are alienating their neighbors by bullying them. The upper 2% of the Elites in America that are pretty much ruining this country will have they day. They will not stay in power for too long. Hell the rich in this country are afraid to be seen as spending too much money. America has a short but successful history of standing form and weathering the storm and persevering through hard times. We may not always do things right no country does but we always seem to bounce back stronger than ever. Again China will not rule the world i dont think any country will like i said i think the term "Super Power" will be extinct in 50 years because of the direction the world is heading in. China will take their rightful place and so will India however not in the way you are thinking. You will live to see a new era of cooperation. But thats just my opinion. Quote:
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09-14-2011, 07:08 AM
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Innovation is a function of social evolution and of course food and nutrition plays a big role in how creative a brain is. Garbage in garbage out, you are what you eat. If Koreans can be as innovative as Americans (Hyundai Equus beats any American luxury car in quality) then China can do it as well, in about 15-20 years. Food problems among different people: - American: too much meat and dairy, a lot of processed factory made junk food and fast food - Chinese: too much fried food, MSG - Korean: too much salt - Japanese: not bad, except for deep fried tempura (heating any plant based oil is carcinogenic) People should eat as much raw organic and as little cooked food as possible. About me from being future, my predictions are based on some theory I have developed about human society and their evolution looking at historical events in the past 1000 years. I can go into details if there is some interest. Now a little Arabian Nights style story. Once upon a time there used to live a headman of a fishing village. He was the strongest man in his village and could easily tackle any men. One day while fishing at sea, he found two bottles. He opened the bottles and out came two genies. The genies were small and obedient, so he decided to keep them for his work. They were doing good work for him. One of them was faster than the other. Both of them were growing, but the faster genie was eating more and also growing faster. So everyday the headman was looking at them and thnking, what a great thing I found them. As they kept growing, the faster genie was now almost twice as big as the headman and almost twice as strong. Now the headman grew worried. It told the smaller genie which was about his size, that in case this big genie turn against us, we need to stay together and the genie replied, yes yes my master. But when the big genie really turned, it took a lot of villagers on its side and the smaller genie stayed out of the conflict. So the headman then lost his position without a fight. The slower genie kept growing and it too found some followers in the village and now the former headman was really down and out, as even the smaller genie didn't listen to him anymore. Francis Fukuyama said after end of cold war that it was "end of history", that is a globalized world is going to live happily ever after, then 9/11 happened. But there is more to come. The game is just beginning, in my opinion. 9/11 was only a side story, that got America all worked up, whipped up old memory of crusade and made it bankrupt with $5 trillion in loss with two wars and expensive "homeland" security in its panic, all the while the Chinese and Indians laughing at what the US was doing to itself.
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09-14-2011, 02:10 PM
Will China rule the world?
I dont know and i dont think even the most informed person can say for certain. We know the basic of the current situation but there is one thing certain about the future is that it is uncertain. "Carpe diem, quam minimum credula postero" - Horace.  zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzFOR THOSE WHO BELEIVE THAT HEAVEN REALLY EXIST, THERE IS A WAY TO HEAVEN  My JF Family Brother of ToKyObOxRoBoT, Nightmare Cousin of Jo_Kittie Great Grand Father of lollijenn Uncle of Hentaro
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