Newborn baby found in convenience store toilet trash can

[Nyororin]

Bathrooms tend to be popular because that is where people most commonly give birth.
Supposedly, for some people, labor starts out feeling like you really have to go...
In other cases, the water breaks and the woman is in the bathroom when the baby pops out.

But it seems to be fairly common for a woman to be pushing in the bathroom and end up with a baby popping out. Panic sets in, and they leave the baby in the bathroom.

There is an image of labor being incredibly painful and needing a team of doctors to get through... But it seems that really isn't a common scenario. For most women, squatting and pushing seems to do the trick.

(I can't comment, as I have never been past about halfway through a pregnancy, and have never given birth.)

[KuroiBara]

True, so many women are able to give birth in their own homes or wherever, the doctors just assist when needed (even in hospitals it isn't often!)
My sister managed to do fine while the doctor was out of the room >.<
I guess I'm just lucky that where I am in the world the girls tend to just abort the baby or give it up (just for the record: I do not condone either, but I think it's better than abandoning it and having it ending up god knows where).
I just hope this little kid isn't mentally scarred for life :/

[tazzy]

It happens.
I've heard stories of young girls not even realising they're pregnant until they practically poop out the kid. Then...well what the hell is a 15 year old going to do with a baby? Ruin her life? The thinking is understandable- though leaving it in a bin rather than somewhere it will more easily be found is a bit nasty.

[KuroiBara]

I don't see how people can not realise they're pregnant for a full 9 months...
But yes, the thinking is understandable - stressed, unsure, confused, scared. But if that were me, I'd leave it at an orphanage or something, with a note explaining the situation so the baby doesn't grow up thinking it is hated. But that's me, I think things over a LOT. Some people don't get the chance to think before they panic I guess.

[Nyororin]

Originally Posted by KuroiBara

I don't see how people can not realise they're pregnant for a full 9 months...
But yes, the thinking is understandable - stressed, unsure, confused, scared. But if that were me, I'd leave it at an orphanage or something, with a note explaining the situation so the baby doesn't grow up thinking it is hated. But that's me, I think things over a LOT. Some people don't get the chance to think before they panic I guess.

I think that a lot of people underestimate the effects panic have on thinking processes.

One of the best examples given are people in a panicked situation being unable to remember the number for emergency services, even if it is referred to as that number... You will see reports of people panicking and "forgetting" the number for 911 in the US.
Another fairly common one is doing something that makes absolutely no sense in context, and that is actually the opposite of helping. For example, the huge accident where instead of calling for help, you start cleaning up your own blood or the like.

A large chunk of the brain basically shuts down in panic mode, so even if you knew you were pregnant and planned to leave the baby somewhere safe - there is a fair chance that you will panic and all that thinking will be thrown out the window if the birth happens unexpectedly.
This is even more true if you hadn't known you were pregnant to begin with.

Now, in regard to not knowing you were pregnant...
It isn't really that unthinkable.
A girl who already has very irregular periods likely won't think anything of her periods being irregular during pregnancy. (Because while the periods stop, light bleeding every once in a while is they common while pregnant - basically looking the same as irregular and light periods would. Not to even mention the small percentage who actually continue their periods through pregnancy...)
A pregnancy that doesn't show all that much is likely to just be looked at as extra weight gain... And some pregnancies don't show much. It seems to be more common with athletic girls, so it isn't a weight thing. Girls who are involved in athletics tend to have slimmer hips and flatter chests... So when they get pregnant, the hips spread and the chest fills out. Instead of getting a big baby ball, they get a more feminine body shape. It is VERY easy for a girl to mistake this for normal body changes.

Add this to younger girls finding the whole idea of getting pregnant completely unthinkable, and it is a lot easier to come to the conclusion that she is finally "filling out" and that she might want to go on a diet sometime soon than thinking that there is a baby in there. I mean, it isn't just the girls that don't notice - their friends and family also don't know.

Having no clue, then suddenly having a baby pop out is definitely complete terror and panic territory. I don't think that most of these girls really want to throw the baby away as much as they want to hide it, run, and forget the whole traumatic experience... And the trash bin is conveniently there in front of them.

[KuroiBara]

I get what you're saying, but I just can't see how people wouldn't notice in the slightest, even just a little niggling thought in the back of their mind saying 'maybe'.

I mean, if you have irregular periods and then you have unprotected sex and suddenly you're craving food you haven't had cravings for before, it's likely to dawn on someone (even for a second) that there might be more to it than growing up.

Obviously everyone is different, when I was at school the PE teacher got pregnant and none of us knew until she gave birth! She knew, but because she was so sporty she gained barely any (noticeable) weight. I can see how that would be a problem!

Regarding the spotting/light bleeding - I've heard of this with some women,
but what if this is not normal for the woman? I've heard stories where the woman says "I didn't know I was pregnant" and then admits that her periods suddenly became irregular and lighter...

Obviously, if everything you say fits to someone (for example, a teenager has irregular and light periods on a regular basis and then has unprotected sex and they stay about the same, she is quite athletic and so doesn't gain much weight, and she has no strange cravings for some reason) then she would have absolutely no idea and probably will think she got away with not being safe, then panics and discards the baby wherever she is. Unfortunately, I must agree, trash cans are the most popular thing to find *anywhere*.

[[I'm not trying to prove your theories wrong btw, I do agree that people do silly things under great stress, that's human nature. I just find it hard to think of someone not being able to notice they are pregnant - I'm not in the slightest bit athletic and no matter how much I eat or exercise I manage to stay the same weight, and I have for about 3 years now, so I would probably be able to notice the weight of another human added to that. That amongst many other reasons. So for me it's hard to imagine, but I know it happens, and it seems to happen a LOT where I live]]

[Nyororin]

You are making a huge and incorrect assumption... Unprotected sex is NOT the only way to get pregnant. Condoms are 99% effective - when used 100% properly. Same deal with birth control. Even used properly, that is still 1 in a hundred.
The thing is, most people don't use them properly to begin with. Taking a pill late, forgetting and skipping one without realizing it, touching before putting a condom on, accidentally starting to put the condom on the wrong way then fixing it, etc, are the more tame ones. Almost everyone would assume that they are safe with that level (and likely don't even realize there is risk).
Go a step further and there are tons of people who assume that as long as the deed isn't finished "inside", they are safe. ie. He pulled out, so there is no way.

A long long time ago I knew a girl who was six months pregnant before she knew. She'd never had sex. But they had been involved in some messy touching and play. She never dreamed she could get pregnant without him actually putting it all the way in... So... Yeah, I would say it is pretty safe to say that a lot of these girls don't think they could be pregnant because they don't think they did something that could get them pregnant in the first place.
The assumption that it is only girls who have unprotected sex who get pregnant is the same type of thinking that prevents them from believing they could possibly be pregnant.

You are also assuming that all women have morning sickness, cravings, etc.
Cravings, while common as a pregnancy symptom, aren't really THAT common. I have heard something in the area of only 30 to 50% of women experience them. That is obviously more than when not pregnant, but 50 to 70% of women don't experience any cravings at all.

I have been pregnant - I gave birth preterm so cannot speak for the lt couple months - but I LOST weight during the pregnancy. I didn't have any morning sickness, I had no cravings, and I had irregular periods with "normal" spotting. If I had not been trying to get pregnant, I probably would never have known before miscarrying.

If you are experiencing the full bundle of symptoms, then yes... It would be hard to miss it. But if you are not? Or if you are in a situation where the symptoms look to be something else? It is easier to miss than some people tend to think.

When it comes to weight gain, it is actually a lot easier for people to explain away than you would think. Pregnancy often makes you hungrier, and the most common cravings aren't for strange foods, but for sweets or salty snacks. Instead of craving something weird, it is more like french fries or cookies sounding really good... If you have given into temptation and bought a few more packs of Oreos or the like, you have a pretty good explanation for the extra couple pounds.

So, let us say that you are a girl who fits the athletic no-show profile. You have sex with your boyfriend, but he pulls out and puts a condom on before finishing. That month, your period comes pretty much on schedule and seems normal.
You break up and don't have any sex after that. You are kind of depressed about the break up and eat more sweets than usual and gain a few pounds.

Why would you think "I might be pregnant" ?

I believe that in most cases the girls are just in denial or trying to hide it from everyone... But there really are cases where they have no clue.

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ETA;
Another note - a baby doesn't just grow out of control. It takes nourishment from your body. If you do not increase calorie intake, the calories the baby uses to grow and live are calories that your body will not receive. Your weight can shrink just as quickly as a baby can grow. This is especially true if you are very aware of how much you eat - you aren't likely to increase your eating, so the baby isn't likely to be huge and you aren't likely to put on much pregnancy weight.
Would you notice an increase of 5lbs over 9 months? Over a few weeks, I am sure you would... But over almost an entire year?
And let us say that you did notice a very tiny incremental increase... Would you guess pregnancy? Or would you watch your calories to stop it?

[KuroiBara]

I'm not making that assumption, I'm simply suggesting that, theoretically, if someone matched the description I explained and said they didn't know, it's highly unlikely that they are being honest.

Yes, there are cases where protection fails, or people are having some messy fun, but they don't stop to think about it. That's the problem, people don't think enough. When a condom splits, they don't think "I might wanna get tested asap regardless of my period", they think 'eh, if it comes I'm off the hook!'

I once knew a girl who had that problem, she took 4 months to take a test and then decided she didn't want it and aborted it. I haven't spoken to her since.

Theoretically, in the situation you explained in the latter part of your message, no, people wouldn't think 'oh crap', they'd think 'I need to diet!' and I get that point, and I do support it. But again, it's because people don't think enough.

My sister - couldn't be bothered with protection. Had her first child and told our parents the "condom broke". Missed a few pills, now she's pregnant again...

Obviously I do not think everyone is the same, and I know everyone has a different situation.

[Ryzorian]

Haveing sex is designed to have kids..that's nature. Anybody who can't figure that out......well, maybe the genepool needs better filters.

[Guza]

Originally Posted by Ryzorian

Haveing sex is designed to have kids..that's nature. Anybody who can't figure that out......well, maybe the genepool needs better filters.

haha or go into genetic alterations of the human gene pool xDDD