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05-26-2007, 04:47 PM

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I think there is a different in genetic information between the ancestor Japanese(Asian people) and Western people base on the environment basic, cause Western whether tend to be colder than Asia whether, i think so the people there need to store up more fat to keep body warm and in hot whether in Asia they do not necessery to stores up fat to keep their body warm. Because these genes existed in the ancestor so even though an Asian may move to a cold whether enviroment, but still remain slim as they inherited the genes from the Asian ancestor. I don't know :-), i just have a lecture on genes at Uni so i thought this is the reason
That's a great post. I heard about American / European women who feel really insecure and uncomfortable in their skin when they live over in Japan because Japanese women are natually leaner and thinner. They start to feel unattractive and such, but they don't seem to realize that the genetic make up of Asian women are slightly different due to climate and other things like you said. It's all in the DNA.

I wish that there wasn't such an emphasis on being thin as a cultural ideal in this world. Why can't people just be happy as themselves? If you want to loose weight then go for it, but don't do it because Nicole Richie is 100 pounds so you think you should be too. If we as a society want to stress being at a lower weight, it should be for the health benefits and not for cosmetic purposes.


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05-28-2007, 02:40 AM

I think if you are chubby it's ok but if you have excessive amounts of weight you should diet the healthy way and increase excersice. i'm normal weight and i'm eating less than i used to because for six months now i haven't excersied due to a surgery on my back that got messed up. i litterally crave excersice and sometimes i'll even sneak out to try to jog but i always get caught and into trouble lol. Well anyways if you can ecxersice i think it is something you should enyjoy doing often...


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05-28-2007, 09:15 AM

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I heard about American / European women who feel really insecure and uncomfortable in their skin when they live over in Japan because Japanese women are natually leaner and thinner. They start to feel unattractive and such, but they don't seem to realize that the genetic make up of Asian women are slightly different due to climate and other things like you said. It's all in the DNA.
Interesting, because I thought it was from the fact that there are so many foreign guys in Japan for the single purpose of dating an Asian girl that it made non-Asian girls feel a bit invisible.

Honestly I don't think DNA has a thing to do with it and from what I see Japanese are just as varied as most everybody else in the world as far as body composition. I say most because, well, the US is kinda, um, overweight.
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Interesting, because I thought it was from the fact that there are so many foreign guys in Japan for the single purpose of dating an Asian girl that it made non-Asian girls feel a bit invisible.

Honestly I don't think DNA has a thing to do with it and from what I see Japanese are just as varied as most everybody else in the world as far as body composition. I say most because, well, the US is kinda, um, overweight.
yeah with their super size maccy D meals. but im not sure i agree, you can get really thin girls and guys in usa too. I mean, of course there are all types of people around the world that have fat and thin DNA, european, african, american, middle eastern even asians. It could be just in your genes.

asian people just have a much different diet such as there seems to be a lot less dairy products eaten. Of course, if you eat alot and don't exercise, you ARE going to gain weight. same with everyone else.

Japanese people eat a certain type of rice(glutinous rice) that fill you up really quickly so, they don't have to eat THAT much to feel full. so there you go, my hypothesis of thin asian people ( minus the break'n' burn asian girls ergh)


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Hmmmmm, it could be genetic could be cultural diet, or both. What I think is, when a baby is in the whome (sp) and the mother is fat and eats a lot, then the baby inside has a higher chance of being a little fatty. my mum is skinny, my dad will be skinny still, and I'm skinny. My (non-blood related) Autie is fat, all 4 of her kids are fat, you could say eating habbits are to blame or genetics. I say a mix of both but, if you're born to a fat mum BEWARE! I'd say.

It was once said that if you went back 100-200+ years ago, you couldn't see a man over 6ft in all of Japan. (Dunno where I heard that, TV I think) Then, after the war westernised food was brought into the Japanese diet, now there is 6footers everywhere, fat people are more numerous ect.

Sounds crazy but that's how I kinda see it.

I guess what i'm saying is, Genetics can sorta be altered by Diet over a much shorter period of time than you'd think.

But bah, what do I know? =__=


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Hmmmmm, it could be genetic could be cultural diet, or both. What I think is, when a baby is in the whome (sp) and the mother is fat and eats a lot, then the baby inside has a higher chance of being a little fatty. my mum is skinny, my dad will be skinny still, and I'm skinny. My (non-blood related) Autie is fat, all 4 of her kids are fat, you could say eating habbits are to blame or genetics. I say a mix of both but, if you're born to a fat mum BEWARE! I'd say.

It was once said that if you went back 100-200+ years ago, you couldn't see a man over 6ft in all of Japan. (Dunno where I heard that, TV I think) Then, after the war westernised food was brought into the Japanese diet, now there is 6footers everywhere, fat people are more numerous ect.

Sounds crazy but that's how I kinda see it.

I guess what i'm saying is, Genetics can sorta be altered by Diet over a much shorter period of time than you'd think.

But bah, what do I know? =__=
quite alot evidently XD. yeah with all those preservatives in food nowadays, im not surprised people are growing to be 6 footers.


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Interesting, because I thought it was from the fact that there are so many foreign guys in Japan for the single purpose of dating an Asian girl that it made non-Asian girls feel a bit invisible.

Honestly I don't think DNA has a thing to do with it and from what I see Japanese are just as varied as most everybody else in the world as far as body composition. I say most because, well, the US is kinda, um, overweight.
There's a website out there for foreign women who live and work in Japan to congregate (Being a Broad: Being A Broad). They bring up the issue when talking about how it might be tough to find clothes that fit. I'm assuming it's a prevalent issue among women working there. They also point out on the flip side that some Japanese women end up being envious curvier western women (who knows whether that's true).

While yes there is diversity in the shape and size of people in Japan just like anywhere else in the world, they are as a people generally much leaner than people of western cultures. You're right though, you can't attribute it all to DNA. That's like someone in the US saying well I'm fat because its in my genes. xYinniex brings up a good point that diet also plays a roll, but unfortunately as more western style food creeps in, who knows what the damage will be.

For people in the west unfortunately children pick up the eating habits of their parents. The change in family dynamic is probably partly to blame. Since we're always on the go and are such an instant gratification based culture, it's no wonder that we have the epidemic that we have. Mom and dad are busy chasing after the American dream so we have to eat out tonight. Many people are just too lazy or don't think they have the time to make healthier choices. Unfortunately, it's also cheaper to eat fast food or pre-packaged food than it is to make healthy meals. Yeah...I think I just went of on a tangent so I'm gonna stop now


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05-28-2007, 11:25 PM

Yeah, I noticed that too. But I just disregarded it as in their genes..or something.
I realized a lot of japanese smoke, aswell. Which is quite dissapointing.
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Japanese people eat a certain type of rice(glutinous rice) that fill you up really quickly so, they don't have to eat THAT much to feel full. so there you go, my hypothesis of thin asian people ( minus the break'n' burn asian girls ergh)
Ah yes, the rice. Filling, bland and completely void of any actual nutritional value. How could I forget about the rice? Good point.
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Ah yes, the McDONALDS. Filling, bland and completely void of any actual nutritional value. How could I forget about the rice? Good point.
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