Let's stop Global Warming!!

[noodle]

Originally Posted by Ronin4hire

First of all... you sound like you've been reading into research carried out by Corporate sponsored thinktanks of which I know is out there. However I'm not going to debate the science behind it as I know very little about it.

All I'll say is that I'm going to trust research endorsed and carried out via the UN over any of these thinktanks.

Oh by the way... You contradict yourself. You say global warming isn't real and then in the next sentence claim that the climate is changing. Though I suspect you meant to argue that humans don't play a significant role in climate change. The degree to which humans play a part however is irrelevant to me. The more important challenge is how to adapt to face these problems. Because if you're right and the human impact is minimal then there is no way to avert them.

The research is done by NASA... Mars and earth are simultaniously warming up, which suggests that the global warming of our planet is natural, which would also fit in to geological theories about Ices Ages, earth's cycles etc
and I think it is safe to say, he was talking about the human contributions... there was no need to be so pedantic.

For those of you that havn't made up your minds and are open to new information. I recommend you guys watch The Great Global Warming Swindle... Extreme Global warming believers will say that this is merely a consipiracy theory video, but in fact, it has a lot of interesting information, some of which I learnt at Uni, instead of the "Humans caused it, so humans should fix it", which I've been getting since I was 11 from Geography class...
Personally, I don't know what to believe, but I highly doubt that Humans are the biggest contributers to global warming...

[ivi0nk3y]

Originally Posted by noodle

The research is done by NASA... Mars and earth are simultaniously warming up, which suggests that the global warming of our planet is natural, which would also fit in to geological theories about Ices Ages, earth's cycles etc
and I think it is safe to say, he was talking about the human contributions... there was no need to be so pedantic.

For those of you that havn't made up your minds and are open to new information. I recommend you guys watch The Great Global Warming Swindle... Extreme Global warming believers will say that this is merely a consipiracy theory video, but in fact, it has a lot of interesting information, some of which I learnt at Uni, instead of the "Humans caused it, so humans should fix it", which I've been getting since I was 11 from Geography class...
Personally, I don't know what to believe, but I highly doubt that Humans are the biggest contributers to global warming...

Well I haven't seen that "conspiracy video" but I wouldn't call it that anyway because any inconvenient truths are given that label.

Anyhoo, I opened up my browser today and it directs me to my homepage, which is Yahoo. It's normally filled with a lot of Tabloid style information.
On that page I found this article.

'Space' kangaroo shines light on global warming - Yahoo! News UK

Now obviously putting that article on a page would suggest that thousands, if not millions of people are potentially going to read it. They will most likely also trust this article as being a truth.
I personally don't know how they can prove Global Warming is occuring from such a trivial experiment. The theories the experiment is based on, also seem very simplistic to me. However I have two points.
First one is, how appropriate is it for them to carry out such experiments and conclude that Global Warming is the issue that they are stating and secondly, if they can pull the wool over your eyes with this, then they can most certainly do it with anything else, through "science". (as they have been.)

[noodle]

Yeah, I agree, almost anything that goes against the mainstream view is considered to be a conspiracy theory... That's why I kinda said that...

The biggest problems I have with all this Global warming thing is how exaggerated it sounds and the hypocracy that is involved when trying to restrain the progress of developing countries...

[yuujirou]

Originally Posted by noodle

Yeah, I agree, almost anything that goes against the mainstream view is considered to be a conspiracy theory... That's why I kinda said that...

The biggest problems I have with all this Global warming thing is how exaggerated it sounds and the hypocracy that is involved when trying to restrain the progress of developing countries...

why don't we just give all our technology to the developing countries
and live all natural x]
(if they can do it, then so can we............not really >.>' )

[noodle]

Originally Posted by yuujirou

why don't we just give all our technology to the developing countries
and live all natural x]
(if they can do it, then so can we............not really >.>' )

lol. because we'd produce too much CO2 transporting all our techonology

[yuujirou]

Originally Posted by noodle

lol. because we'd produce too much CO2 transporting all our techonology

We'll ship everything except our kitchen sinks >.>

[Ronin4hire]

Originally Posted by noodle

The research is done by NASA... Mars and earth are simultaniously warming up, which suggests that the global warming of our planet is natural, which would also fit in to geological theories about Ices Ages, earth's cycles etc
and I think it is safe to say, he was talking about the human contributions... there was no need to be so pedantic.

For those of you that havn't made up your minds and are open to new information. I recommend you guys watch The Great Global Warming Swindle... Extreme Global warming believers will say that this is merely a consipiracy theory video, but in fact, it has a lot of interesting information, some of which I learnt at Uni, instead of the "Humans caused it, so humans should fix it", which I've been getting since I was 11 from Geography class...
Personally, I don't know what to believe, but I highly doubt that Humans are the biggest contributers to global warming...

Well there was no need to be pedantic. But the guy's post was annoyingly simple so I felt like being pedantic

As for me? I don't really care whether humans are the cause or not, though I'll add that it is almost certain that we are contributors to a degree. Either way it's happening. Either way the environment and human consumption needs to be managed.

[ivi0nk3y]

I don't think you can deny that humans have caused some climate change or whatever. All the technological advances and their side effects must have some reprecussions at the very least.
It's just a big question as to what the real story behind it all is. I doubt you'll get the whole truth if you Google it or watch a BBC documentary.
Hypocrisy is definitely going to be a large factor in any "scientific" discovery which effects the world as a whole, whether it be true or not. The "developed" countries of the world can seem to want to avoid a global problem because of their own previous mistakes. Whether you believe that it fits in with their agenda of keep "developing countries" in a state of "development", is what you must decide on your own.

[Tyrien]

Originally Posted by ivi0nk3y

I don't think you can deny that humans have caused some climate change or whatever. All the technological advances and their side effects must have some reprecussions at the very least.
It's just a big question as to what the real story behind it all is. I doubt you'll get the whole truth if you Google it or watch a BBC documentary.
Hypocrisy is definitely going to be a large factor in any "scientific" discovery which effects the world as a whole, whether it be true or not. The "developed" countries of the world can seem to want to avoid a global problem because of their own previous mistakes. Whether you believe that it fits in with their agenda of keep "developing countries" in a state of "development", is what you must decide on your own.

Humanity's impact is rather minimal. The whole logic behind global warming is the greenhouse effect. However natural emissions (namely volcanic, or forest firers) vastly outweigh anything humans have done. Is that to say we've had no effect? No, not at all. That's saying any effect we've caused isn't as horrible as Gore wants the masses to believe. I'm talking about global climate, not the environment as a whole.

Originally Posted by HYDfan

Finally! There are some sane people in the world. Global warming isn't real. Yes, the climate here is changing.. well guess what? Mars is getting hotter now too... you think it's all the cars and hairspray cans that the aliens use?? sheesh..

Lol, 1996 was the hottest year, since then the average temperature has been declining.

[ivi0nk3y]

Originally Posted by Tyrien

Humanity's impact is rather minimal. The whole logic behind global warming is the greenhouse effect. However natural emissions (namely volcanic, or forest firers) vastly outweigh anything humans have done. Is that to say we've had no effect? No, not at all. That's saying any effect we've caused isn't as horrible as Gore wants the masses to believe. I'm talking about global climate, not the environment as a whole.

I guess it's not a huge coincidence then that there is no study on it.