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05-18-2008, 01:53 AM

There's no way global warming could be stopped. Major temperature changes have been going on for billions of years and a bunch of humans aren't going to be able to stop it. We only produce a very, very small proportion of causes that would effect the earth's climate, anyway...that includes helping and harming it.

In fact, this nice constant climate we have going on for the past whatever years is actually a strange phenomena. The world should have warmed or frozen over again thousands of years ago according to its past records in order to stay normal.

Plus, I personally don't think the globe is warming that much. It's just a bunch of people getting scared saying "we need to do something." People have been getting themselves frightened like this for generations...so my dad says.

Besides, it's been proven that the CO2 levels rise after the globe's temperature rises. So CO2 levels are not the cause of global warming therefore buying hybrids and stuff like that won't do much.

Even if I did believe that the globe was warming as much as people say, I still wouldn't care for global warming. There's so much more that we could be doing to stop issues happening now such as AIDS, hunger, and cancer. I think the cure for cancer should be a much bigger issue than global warming. And as it was stated before, humans survived the last ice age and I'm all in favor for the heat in my part of the world. I hate the cold...and the ice wouldn't come until after I'm dead and my kids have adapted to the freezing temperatures.


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05-18-2008, 01:58 AM

I guess that you are absolutely right Cyasarin.Humans are very resistent animals and they will probably survive the Global Warming issue too.
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05-18-2008, 02:01 AM

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I guess that you are absolutely right Cyasarin.Humans are very resistent animals and they will probably survive the Global Warming issue too.
Wow, I thought I would get disagreements first...but yeah, we so would. Adaptation is supah cool.


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05-18-2008, 02:02 AM

But unfortunately animals are suffering and being killed because of the temperature ._.
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05-18-2008, 02:07 AM

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But unfortunately animals are suffering and being killed because of the temperature ._.
That is also very true.But I guess that it is all only a necessary part of the Earths proccess of evolution.

Many species were extincted at the past like the Dinosaurs for example but many of the Dinosaurs descendants adapted to the nature changes and are still around us nowadays.Like the Elephant for example if I am not wrong.Or like the Tiger also.And etc etc.

And also many other species appeared.So maybe a few species will disappear but others will appear to replace them.I am not sure about that tough it is only a way of thinking according to my view of the logic.

But I personally hope that no animals species become extincted for all them are very important for the world.
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05-18-2008, 02:12 AM

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But unfortunately animals are suffering and being killed because of the temperature ._.
It is true but I feel like there's a reason for it...I'm one of those "there's reason for everything" people. Like Acidreptile said, it's necessary and there's also tons of animals that adapt so that they don't go extinct and tons more that pop up after others are gone. Maybe some go extinct in order to make room for new ones.


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05-19-2008, 03:29 PM

Its ounds like some people are having time warps or something.

Yes - we will all die eventually, even as a species probably. Do we really need to work this hard at accelerating the time frame?

No - we are not necessarily talking about the destruction of the planet, just making it uninhabitable for humans. I think that will come first and delay the planet's destruction by removing the external assault force we are determined to become.

Yes - humans, like most species, evolve, mutate and otherwise adapt to their environment. But this process takes many, many generations. Lets see, for an amoeba that averages about 2 days, so 1000 generations..... adaptation in say 4 years. Want to do the math for the human species? We will NOT adapt and evolve to deal with the climate becoming inhospitable in time at the rate we are going. Besides as an orgaism evolves it loses a high percentage (near extinction) in the process. You won't have the people to maintain anything close to the world as you know it, by the time our species adapts to a hostile climate - if it even can. Not all organisms adapt and survive.


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05-19-2008, 03:40 PM

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whatever happens to the earth is beyond my control.
any contributions that i could make...
would hardly make an impact >.>''
sure, if everyone chips in, does their part, this world would be a better place??
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no, it wouldn't
the EARTH would be in a better state, but we, as domesticated humans
would be in a miserable hell >.>'''
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soo, speaking as a typical civilian x]
i'ma keep my little comforts until the economical alternatives
become more affordable and practical >.>'
Unfortunately, I cannot disagree with much of what you have posted. (what I edited out)
But how about a simple effort that will not make you or anyone else feel put upon or deprived?

Stop using disposable chopsticks. You can carry your own without much trouble, they are easy to wash, and if the billions of people people who use them would stop, it would make a difference for the environment. Not only that, it might become stylish expanding the interest in the utensil as an art form (which it is!)

By setting an example and explaining to those who notice & ask, change can happen.

Restaurants might find it far cheaper to acquire a stock that can be piled in the dishwaser, than to constantly purchase new disposables that add to the mounting cost of their trash removal fees (it really does add up). And customized ones could add to the elegance of the place settings as well as serve as cheap advertising with carryout orders. Customers would keep and use them, unlike the imprinted wrappers that go straight into the trash even before the disposable chopsticks they hold.


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05-19-2008, 05:37 PM

Global warming, well everyone has been talking about it a lot for the past couple of years. And nowadays all scientists agree that it is already happening. The biggest difference is that some say it will change the climate in the next 10 years or so, others say it will take over a 100 years before the effects get really bad, so there is plenty of time.

I think it is really time to do something about this. Certain species are on the verge of extinction.And some vaslty populated countries have been hit by tyfoons, stunamis, earthquaks, floods, etc. too often in the past 10 years. So it must be a priority to help those people who are stuck in such a situation. And I think it is clear that these things have not been happening without a reason. Global warming is what has been triggering it.

Ok, I understand that some people think that these changes are just a natural fluctuation between warm periods and cold periods. But these changes are happening too fast. We will not be able to adapt to the changes at the pace that they are happening right now.

And yes humans have survived an ice age in the past. but personally I really would not want to be alive to see something like that really happening. Just because some percentage of the human population survived it in those days does not mean it is a walk in the park.


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05-19-2008, 05:48 PM

i think that this is verry diverse issue. in 1 hand u say there's nothing we can do bt on the other hand u want to do all u can. whats a person to do?


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