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09-06-2010, 04:10 PM
well if you have some and you are able to justify with sound arguments, then i guess it's gonna be a healthy debate. let the the people judge, which side they're on, or synthesise if they see common grounds.
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09-06-2010, 05:49 PM
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But it's a tit-for-tat game that doesn't end in Japans court. ".. [Japan's] propaganda and political spin..", Not very Machiavellian of you considering the rest of your statement. It must be noted that the common species of ocean dolphins, like those killed in Japan, are not endangered or even close to becoming endangered species. The types of dolphins that are truly in danger of going extinct are the river/freshwater dolphins around the world( In Brazil, China and India ) It is interesting to note that so much time, money, energy and drama was spent to scream attention to Japanese dolphin slaughter when ZERO attention is given to the river dolphins that ARE disappearing. Just google it for your self. |
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I don't think I have, but yes, what I am talking about, at least the core of it, is not just whaling and dolphin hunting. So either way works for me. Even if I agree to your beliefs, Whaling is OK anyways, because it is only Bottlenose Dolphins that are self-aware by your definition. Minke Whales are OK to be hunted. |
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09-12-2010, 12:00 AM
Argh, argh, I've been away for a whole week. Too much to catch up on in just one post, but please, please don't think that by 'the slant' i meant a racist slur on you Cranks!:<
It wasn't meant like that at all; in British vernacular a 'slant' is basically whichever side or angle a topic of conversation is aiming towards. I meant that so far the most concern of the debate had been about understanding Japanese views of Dolphin hunting and whaling, and that for a full debate to be enacted, it would have to come back and explore western views of dolphin hunting and whaling. Even if an argument seems flawed, it's still often representative of the reasons why there is a controversy in the first place and worth exploring. Of course, now I'm not sure if you knew that already and were joking or not! :/ |
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09-12-2010, 02:18 AM
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I had never heard of the expression though. British people are sometimes very idiomatic, which is good, I learnt a new expression. I guess I pushed the slant even further... but oh well. |
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02-28-2012, 06:37 PM
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As for the dolphins, if the Japanese could prove that slaughtering them was for the purpose of national subsistance, I might feel more sympathy but I don't see any such purpose with what they're doing. There comes a time when luxury exceeds humanity, it's time for them to stop this. |
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