completing my Education in japan >> ?

[MMM]

Originally Posted by samokan

try waseda university. I'm not sure about undergrad if they are assigned to translator but some masteral student i know who studied there were assigned to one and their assigned professor also can speak english.

but most of their class were held in japanese.

undergrad usually have intensive japanese lessons.

some monbusho scholars I know, have really intensive japanese class for a year, I think they study everyday more or less 10 hours of japanese lessons per day and by the end of the year they are expected to reach the JLPT 2 or 1.

JLPT 1 in one year. That would be like writing a graduate thesis after studying English for a year.

[Nyororin]

You can get into international programs without any Japanese...
However, you will be in an intensive university level Japanese course for the first year or year and a half with absolutely no time spent on anything else. It is possibly, in that environment, to reach a workable level of Japanese in that amount of time... But think 8 hours a day of intensive language classes, and nothing else.

Not that it is a bad path at all if your goal is to study in Japan. In fact, it`s the best path in my opinion. Studying Japanese outside of Japan will take an eternity.

[Nyororin]

Originally Posted by MMM

JLPT 1 in one year. That would be like writing a graduate thesis after studying English for a year.

But it can and has been done. It`s the level and intensity of the classes - and the determination of the student.
I do have to say that the majority who pull it off are Chinese, so have kanji background to draw from though.

[MMM]

Originally Posted by Nyororin

But it can and has been done. It`s the level and intensity of the classes - and the determination of the student.
I do have to say that the majority who pull it off are Chinese, so have kanji background to draw from though.

Aha...that would make sense. That must be intense!

[Nyororin]

Originally Posted by MMM

Aha...that would make sense. That must be intense!

I once talked to someone about halfway through the course. She was doing 8 hours of back to back 60 to 90 minute classes, 2 hours of individual speaking practice after them, then 4 hours of solo listening+writing practice and homework each night. Squeeze meals and a bath in there and the day is over.

[samokan]

Originally Posted by MMM

JLPT 1 in one year. That would be like writing a graduate thesis after studying English for a year.

yeah i also shocked to learn that. I know this mongolian girl who was under that program, after a year of intensive japanese language study, she was required to either take level 1 or 2. she did take level 2. if she can't pass she can't proceed to her degree.

[samokan]

Originally Posted by Nyororin

I once talked to someone about halfway through the course. She was doing 8 hours of back to back 60 to 90 minute classes, 2 hours of individual speaking practice after them, then 4 hours of solo listening+writing practice and homework each night. Squeeze meals and a bath in there and the day is over.

yeah that's about their schedule per day .. i think they are required to memorize at least 10 kanji per day.. with all the vocab, and grammar and all ..

[Nyororin]

Maybe I`m just spoiled, but after that type of schedule, I`d want to be able to handwrite a novel with some pretty impressive prose...
I don`t think it would really be able that unthinkable to hit JLPT2 after a course like that - I passed it after only a little over a year in Japan, with no actual study. The gap between 2 and 1 took some time, but 14 hours a day of study for a year and it doesn`t sound impossible to me at all, really.

[samokan]

I think it's really doable, it all comes down to your interest and determination

[BlueStar]

Originally Posted by Nyororin

You can get into international programs without any Japanese...
However, you will be in an intensive university level Japanese course for the first year or year and a half with absolutely no time spent on anything else. It is possibly, in that environment, to reach a workable level of Japanese in that amount of time... But think 8 hours a day of intensive language classes, and nothing else.

Not that it is a bad path at all if your goal is to study in Japan. In fact, it`s the best path in my opinion. Studying Japanese outside of Japan will take an eternity.

so in this international program, i can study in english.
but i have to study 1 year ja. lang.
8 hours is easy i think
cuz i studied en in one year 8 hours a day

thanks........