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Westerner friendly, not-too-expensive, host bar - 01-29-2011, 02:54 PM

This seems the stupidest question I have ever posted but here goes anyway.

Does anyone know of any host bars, as in pretty men pretending to flirt with girls, that are westerner friendly and won't cost the earth for just a couple hours.

(Does such a thing even exist!)

Anywhere in the central areas of Osaka or Tokyo would be good.

I know probably not, but ever since I saw a documentary called the great happiness space I have wanted to visit a host bar, just once to get a feel for the environment. Seems impossible given the language barrier though.

Any thoughts?

I have looked into things a bit online, and got inconclusive answers so thought I would post here.


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Do you want Japanese hosts or Western ones?
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Ideally Japanese, but it doesn't really matter eitherway I just want the experience of it.

If they are Japanese, I guess they would need to speak a bit of English to entertain me, but I have limited Japanese too so it might work enough for just a couple drinks.


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01-29-2011, 03:13 PM

Haha is it bad that I wanted to do this too? I've seen the documentry too a while ago so...
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Ideally Japanese, but it doesn't really matter eitherway I just want the experience of it.

If they are Japanese, I guess they would need to speak a bit of English to entertain me, but I have limited Japanese too so it might work enough for just a couple drinks.
Well here's one famous one with western butlers in Tokyo, Shibuya...

http://www.butlerscafe.com/index.html
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01-30-2011, 11:27 AM

Yeah, that's like a maid/butler cafe, not a host club~

I've heard they are just soooo expensive. D: And they make you spend lots on drinks.
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01-30-2011, 07:33 PM

I think the problem is that host bars by definition do not cater to Westerners by design, as they ask for way more money than any Western woman would find reasonable for the service they receive. To cater to the tiny number of Western women interested in visiting a host bar one time, (when the business model depends on repeat customers), they would have to slash prices right out of business. Now they can't have different prices for different nationalities.
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No no, I understand that, and didn't expect them to change everything either. Just wondered if it's actually possible to go into these places and not drop a grand. Neither of us have that kind of money, haha.

Just a casual interest, I guess.
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No no, I understand that, and didn't expect them to change everything either. Just wondered if it's actually possible to go into these places and not drop a grand. Neither of us have that kind of money, haha.

Just a casual interest, I guess.
The smaller, crappier, poorly located place, the cheaper it is going to be. But do you want to go to a small, crappy, poorly located host bar?
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01-30-2011, 08:02 PM

You don`t HAVE to stay for a long time or spend a lot of money. You can get away with spending very little (in terms of host clubs).

A pretty standard run down on cost -
5000 - 6000yen cover charge
2000 or so to choose the guy you want to be entertained by (sometimes you can just ask for whoever is free and not pay this or only pay half)
Drinks - get to those in a minute
And a 30% service tax

Drinks tend to go anywhere from 1000yen for a beer, to pretty extreme bottles that can hit 500,000yen.

Cocktails tend to be 1000 to 1500.

There will also usually be a menu of snacks / food, usually below 2000 for anything.

You could technically do something like this;
10000 cover charge (2 of you)
2000 for a guy you pick
4500 for cocktails for you two and the guy
1500 for snacks
5400 service tax
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23400 yen for the two of you

And that is assuming that they don`t have a "new customer" thing going on - most places do, and they`ll halve the cover charge and offer an all-you-can-drink deal for 3000 or so. Some will have a flat rate of 3000~5000yen for 2 hours of all-you-can-drink with no cover charge.

So if you look around and find a place doing this kind of deal (most do, it`s a chance to hook a new customer), you could get by on 10,000 or less for the two of you.

Even if there isn`t that kind of a plan offered, you can sometimes find early hours discounts - even a cheap customer is better than NO customers, so things will be half or more off before prime hours.

Host clubs are a bit of a different culture than hostess bars. You don`t have to spend incredible amounts just to go to one for the experience. Even most of the nicest places will have the new customer deal of 3000~5000yen. (I have yet to see one that doesn`t.)


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